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narlus 07.17.2006 08:45 PM

"Caution" from the Chameleons is in 6/8, i believe. great song.

acousticrock87 07.17.2006 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-krack
haha what? so you would... just play in 4/4 always (which isnt all that uncommon...?) or they couldn't do that even? explain

No, like they would come up with these bizarre riffs that made no mathematical sense at all. Like there would be a random eighth-note at the end or something. I just had to figure out a beat that worked with it or tell them to add or subtract a beat or something. It was my first band and I hardly knew what I was doing, and I didn't understand rhythm enough to analyze and play it, so it got real stressful trying to keep up with new songs and remember all the little oddities.

samuel 07.17.2006 08:54 PM

My Sweet Prince by Placebo 3/4? I think.

EyeballGrowth 07.17.2006 08:55 PM

songs not in 4/4?

My Wave - Soundgarden
Tornadoes - Butthole Surfers
LOTS of zappa, Frank and Dweezil alike
Money - Pink Floyd
No Aloha - The Breeders

k-krack 07.17.2006 08:55 PM

(acousticrock87) oooh yeah. it can be really annoying trying to come up with a different beat in like.. 5/4 and then have another song in 5/4 (just an example) and try to come up with a different beat... its rewarding though. aha

acousticrock87 07.17.2006 08:59 PM

Ya but it wasn't even that. It would be usually something in 4/4 but with an extra eighth-note. Like I guess that would be something like 9/8, to give it a sort of edgy metal sound. It's easy to just come up with a sporadic off-kilter guitar riff like that, but when it comes to playing an interesting beat over it it was out of my league.

Like:

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 1

k-krack 07.17.2006 09:14 PM

yeah
when im too tired out and stuff, i usually resort to really sorta.. simplified beats, like.. (5/4 just to keep with 5/4)
*edit, ahhh fuck it doesn't keep the spacing patterns i make!!! *Wahhhh anyways.. it ws just
bass snare bass bass snare repeated.. or
bass snare bass snare snare ... etc

golden child 07.17.2006 11:53 PM

i always wondered:

how do you tell the difference between say... 8/4 and 4/4, how do you know its 8/4 and not 4/4 with eighth notes.


<---- heh, 666!

acousticrock87 07.17.2006 11:58 PM

You mean the difference between 4/4 and 4/8. It's played the same, but written differently. The same exact thing written in 4/4 would be twice as fast played in 4/8, but if you're just explaining what a song is being played in, it doesn't matter.

golden child 07.18.2006 12:05 AM

yeah 4/8 thats what i meant. your explation is about what i thought.

SonikJesus 07.18.2006 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
You mean the difference between 4/4 and 4/8. It's played the same, but written differently. The same exact thing written in 4/4 would be twice as fast played in 4/8, but if you're just explaining what a song is being played in, it doesn't matter.


I think you mean 8/4. It's played the same as 4/4 but the bars are twice as long (8 beats in a measure). The same thing written in 4/8 would be twice as fast as 4/4, like you said. But 4/4 and 4/8 are not played the same. I think I just misinterpreted your post. This is cool, I didn't think a lot of you knew stuff about reading music. Can any of you guys read music? Like notes, not tabs? Personally, I think tabs are a pain to read. Notes are so much easier. I guess people are just too lazy to learn to read music.

SonikJesus 07.18.2006 12:31 AM

In other words,4/8 is just 4/4 cut in half.

acousticrock87 07.18.2006 01:48 AM

I didn't mean they were played the same, but that you can't tell the difference by listening to a song whether it's 4/4 or 4/8. It's just a preference of organization, depending on the piece and which it best fits. Although, 8/4 would be impossible to differentiate, too. I hadn't thought of that.

I think I do have a wrong concept of what the value is, though. One bar of 4/8 would be equivalent to a half bar of 4/4, then, but with twice as many beats? I think that's why I said it's twice as fast. I'm not even sure anymore.

Cantankerous 07.18.2006 02:06 AM

mary had a little lamb

terminal pharmacy 07.18.2006 09:13 AM

tool - lateralus 9/8 8/8 7/8 then the main 6/4
most of a perfect circles catalogue is in 6/8
kurt weill - alabama song 3/4
jethro tull - thick as a brick where do you start with that baby, changes time so much its rediculous

sonic sphere 07.18.2006 03:50 PM

the 1st song on slayer's divine intervention-don't know the name

SonikJesus 07.18.2006 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
I didn't mean they were played the same, but that you can't tell the difference by listening to a song whether it's 4/4 or 4/8. It's just a preference of organization, depending on the piece and which it best fits. Although, 8/4 would be impossible to differentiate, too. I hadn't thought of that.

I think I do have a wrong concept of what the value is, though. One bar of 4/8 would be equivalent to a half bar of 4/4, then, but with twice as many beats? I think that's why I said it's twice as fast. I'm not even sure anymore.


I figured I misinterpreted your post. You're right about one bar of 4/8 being half a bar of 4/4. In 4/4, you're counting whole notes, while in 4/8 you're counting eighth notes ,which are half of a whole note, or half a beat. But they both 4/4 and 4/8 have 4 beats a measure/bar.

themawt71 07.19.2006 12:27 AM

sy's renegade princess
the beginning superimposes 3/4 on 4/4.

stravinskys rite of spring change time signatures umm often.

yeah i read music but it was a bitch going from tab to music. in highschool i forced myself to learn to read music but everytime there would be tab and "music" together i would always go to the tab.

_slavo_ 07.19.2006 12:28 AM

Mogwai - Waltz for Aidan - 3/4 (obviously)


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