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ann ashtray 07.13.2010 11:23 AM

I'm still at a phase to where whenever I'm wanting to hear something "new", I feel a need to look back.

Coltrane
Stooges
Throbbing Gristle
Swans
Pharoah Sanders


so much stuff that just can't be topped, ageless. These fine folk are still inspirational as well as influential and it can be heard.

I was reading an interview not long ago w/ this band S.C.U.M...I like the ideas they were trying to get across via the pages of whatever 'zine I was reading, but the music bored me something serious. This happens a lot.

Deerhunter is cool. I think Bradford Cox has the right idea. Nice guy, too.

I try and listen to new stuff...but so seldom does it do anything for me.

I still think the Markers are capable of great things. That Boss record was amazing. VU and the Youth and punk rock and prettiness...it was all there, but they did something unique with it.

Rock n roll is old.

Pussy Galore for me. Skip James. Butthole Surfers. Black Flag....stuff that just isn't going to be topped. Still though, people shouldn't stop trying. I've always felt the idea IS NOT in attempting to sound innovative or new..."I just want to do something that sounds different"...wrong idea. Most of this stuff always fails. Just write man, just fucking paly. play what YOU play when no one else is around, when no one can hear ya. Play what you want....if it sounds like Nirvana, chances are it's still better than when people say "lets do something that sounds a bit grungy...kinda like Melvins or Nirvana". But sometimes, just sometimes, someone has a fucking idea that will knock everyone on their asses...some unique approach that more often than not stems from "I'm not going to attempt technical precision, unless it happens naturally".

Kurt ripped everyone off. But his approach was HONEST and that made it sound very unique. 'Least, to me ya know...

Be natural and play. Keep it honest.

So much bullshit out there these days.

Nothing wrong w/ still listening to good 'ol Chuck Berry + Mudhoney.

Seems even the Youth are at a loss of "fresh" ideas these days. Not always a bad thing.

what do I know....

Soundgarden still sound innovative to me. mixin' the Surfers w/ Zep + Ravi Shankar....probably w/out even realizing it.

batreleaser 07.13.2010 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
I'm still at a phase to where whenever I'm wanting to hear something "new", I feel a need to look back.

Coltrane
Stooges
Throbbing Gristle
Swans
Pharoah Sanders


so much stuff that just can't be topped, ageless. These fine folk are still inspirational as well as influential and it can be heard.

I was reading an interview not long ago w/ this band S.C.U.M...I like the ideas they were trying to get across via the pages of whatever 'zine I was reading, but the music bored me something serious. This happens a lot.

Deerhunter is cool. I think Bradford Cox has the right idea. Nice guy, too.

I try and listen to new stuff...but so seldom does it do anything for me.

I still think the Markers are capable of great things. That Boss record was amazing. VU and the Youth and punk rock and prettiness...it was all there, but they did something unique with it.

Rock n roll is old.

Pussy Galore for me. Skip James. Butthole Surfers. Black Flag....stuff that just isn't going to be topped. Still though, people shouldn't stop trying. I've always felt the idea IS NOT in attempting to sound innovative or new..."I just want to do something that sounds different"...wrong idea. Most of this stuff always fails. Just write man, just fucking paly. play what YOU play when no one else is around, when no one can hear ya. Play what you want....if it sounds like Nirvana, chances are it's still better than when people say "lets do something that sounds a bit grungy...kinda like Melvins or Nirvana". But sometimes, just sometimes, someone has a fucking idea that will knock everyone on their asses...some unique approach that more often than not stems from "I'm not going to attempt technical precision, unless it happens naturally".

Kurt ripped everyone off. But his approach was HONEST and that made it sound very unique. 'Least, to me ya know...

Be natural and play. Keep it honest.

So much bullshit out there these days.

Nothing wrong w/ still listening to good 'ol Chuck Berry + Mudhoney.

Seems even the Youth are at a loss of "fresh" ideas these days. Not always a bad thing.

what do I know....

Soundgarden still sound innovative to me. mixin' the Surfers w/ Zep + Ravi Shankar....probably w/out even realizing it.


I dig your style.

ann ashtray 07.13.2010 06:31 PM

Hey man, thanks! That means a lot for real.

narlus 07.13.2010 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
"highest possible recommendation" is something that david keenan always says on the volcanic tongue when he describes records


it means 'please remove this from my shelf'

he got that line from AQ mail order.

atsonicpark 07.13.2010 06:58 PM

Eh, no one really.

Maybe UUUUUU.

atsonicpark 07.13.2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody
Chillwave hypnagogic popsters. HIGHEST POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION.


Hahaha. Be careful who you say this around! Haha.

(only Derek will get what I'm saying.. er, I think.)

atsonicpark 07.13.2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Deerhunter


They're definitely pushing music forward... into a toilet.

Derek 07.13.2010 07:09 PM

Richard Youngs

Derek 07.13.2010 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
They're definitely pushing music forward... into a toilet.

Hahahaha word.

atsonicpark 07.13.2010 07:12 PM

Fahey's dead. Beefheart's retired. Residents got an eyeball stolen. Omoide Hatoba's over. Autechre made their mark. What's left?

THE TEKNO OOMPAH PAH SOUND IS THE NEXT BIG THING.

Derek 07.13.2010 07:16 PM

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Coltrane
Definitely.
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Stooges
No.
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Throbbing Gristle
I think they pushed things forward in a bad way but uhhh more power to them I guess.
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Swans
Fuck no.
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Pharoah Sanders
How can you list Coltrane and then list Sanders when his most forward thinking stuff was reminiscent of Coltrane but less sophisticated? I love him but there's no way you could say he pushed things forward when he was working from Coltrane's blueprints.

atsonicpark 07.13.2010 07:18 PM

Ah, how could I have forgotten Harry Partch? I'd say he pushed music forward more than anyone to ever live (Beefheart was inspired by him). Too bad he's dead too.

Derek 07.13.2010 07:18 PM

All my friends are dead.

ann ashtray 07.13.2010 07:48 PM

Yr take on the Stooges is enough for me to not even bother responding. one of the most unique bands to ever come out of rock n' roll.

Murmer99 07.13.2010 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Yr take on the Stooges is enough for me to not even bother responding. one of the most unique bands to ever come out of rock n' roll.


:p agreed.

ann ashtray 07.13.2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Murmer99
:p agreed.


This there flyer on this street post and it reads "yr 50 percent of me". It's raining outside.

Murmer99 07.13.2010 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
This there flyer on this street post and it reads "yr 50 percent of me". It's raining outside.


Don't type to me, you are a coward!!!!!!

atsonicpark 07.14.2010 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Yr take on the Stooges is enough for me to not even bother responding.


Haha, funniest thing you've ever posted! Somehow I have a feeling Derek knew you would post this response, haha!

Derek 07.14.2010 05:29 AM

That post is even better than his post about Earth 2.

atsonicpark 07.14.2010 06:07 AM

Maybe. Lemme think. Hmm. Okay, it's definitely at least tied for best post ever! I'm sure he will top it real soon though.


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