Mustaine didn't know shit, he just surrounded himself by better musicians and took upon the role of the leader. When the creativity around him started dying out, the music began to suffer. It's not Christianity that killed Megadeth, it was a combo of Dave giving up drugs and surrounding himself around musicians who have no inspiration anymore and went for musicians who all had other established acts. These new guys he's with have nothing to prove nor do they add anything new to the mix. Whether it's Lomenzo or Drover or Broadrick or whoever, Mustaine has no one to actually be inspired by.

For bonus fun, here's a picture of me whiping my ass with a United Abominations shirt while with the band themselves:

Calm that shit down there chief.

Yeah, if you want the coolest Thrash bands then look over to Germany. Fucking Kreator, Sodom et al.

But for me Mustaine is king. Total arrogance, total cheeseball attitude, a demon on the gat and 80's as fuck. Way more character than Metallica. That is what I wanna hear in thrash.

For what it's worth, the majority of my life I've been a rabid Megadeth fanboy. It just so happens that the last couple efforts were abortions.

yeah, i listened to both mayhem-de mysterriees and celtic frost-to mega therion in the same day, i meant to mega therion

Megadeth were fucking awful when I saw them in 1988.

megadeth have always been awful.

Bathory - Blood Fire Death
Metallica - Master of Puppets

yeah but then again i think all of us who wrote about deth in thirs thread are generally saying the same thing in different words.

were cool, ain't no more.
even if he still writes neat shit.

not lyrics tho.
damn the dude is nuts.

nothing about Puppets is thrash

I do agree.

Parts of it are speed metal though

"Damage Inc." is pretty thrashy. Nothing else really though.

Puppets is basically a prog metal album

Parts of it, yeah (the two C'thulhu songs in particular). I don't think "Disposable Heroes" is prog metal though, and "Damage Inc." certainly isn't.

Overall, I'd say it's pretty much a heavy metal album drawing from various aspects of the genre from thrash to prog in a surprisingly cohesive manner. It effectively established Metallica as the definitive band of the whole genre for their day precisely because of their ability to unify the sounds of the underground and the more mainstream in one solid package.

Either way, regardless of genre it's a pretty shitty album.

Yeah, Masters of Puppet isn't trash, it is an amazing album though. "Orion" and the title track are masterpieces.

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Well, that is a matter of taste, and I never try to argue taste one way or the other.

I don't like it anywhere near as much as I did when I was 18 and it was brand new. Still, I think it's solidly constructed and historically important and enjoyable every now and again. But I have no argument for why anyone should like the album or the group or the genre. Aside from really good weed of course.

I think I like it more now than I did when Metallica was my favorite band when I was 10-12 years old. It gets better with time.

Been listening to Megadeth a lot recently and I really do think 'Killing is my Business' is the best SPEED metal album. It's not life changing or anything, it just does exactly what it sets out to do and does it extremely well.

if Overkill byMotorhead counts, then thats the final answer