true.

scenes suck though; just like everyone said, theres no need to listen to music just because its in that scene... whatever.

i dont think mudhoney are ripoffs though; they do sound kind of like the stooges but i dont really care; theyre awesome.

Again, I must ask: Does anybody on music message boards really like music?

Seems to me not. Or at least not much.

i love mudhoney. and i really like in utero. and i hate all post-badmotorfingr soundgarden. but weve already had this arguement before. mudhoney also has tons of good split cd's. their splits with haloofflies and the cows are both great. theyre both put out by amphetamine reptile, its cool hearing these crazed noise rock bands on the same record as a band like mudhoney. anyways, id rather hear bands ape the stooges shit than have them ape the sound of 90 percent of other bands anyday.

why do you ask this? because someone doesn't agree with your favorites?

Yeah, grunge sucks. What a completely moronic scene.

I always thought Blur - Song 2 was hilarious because it seemed to parody grunge's stupidity to a t.

Also, why do people say things like "grunge music isn't a genre"? People always say things like that.. "No wave isn't a genre! It was a SCENE!" "There's no such thing as NOISE ROCK!" Etc. People get so fucking tore up over genres. Who gives a fuck?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge

Looks like a genre to me!

gee, I wonder why there's suddenly a topic about grunge ? Could it be the recent simpsons episode that sent you off on a bitch rant?

people still watch the simpsons?

I just read the synopsis of it. It completely contradicts the earlier episodes which showed Homer and Marges earlier lives. It doesn't work at all with the canon of the Simpsons

I say this because you look at the bands that are labeled grunge and maybe two or three even sound simmular. I just consider Grunge more of an era of music than a genre.

Whatever Nirvana were, Kurt was a great songwriter. Someone who just had the gift of writing a tune whether it was complicated or just using two chords.

I never disliked Soundgarden by any means, but I never really got into them, although a sibling was into them alot. I'm not really a fan of Chris Cornell, his voice is not my kinda voice.

As for Mudhoney, it's the same kinda thing, just minus the voice thing.

I've seen every episode of the Simpsons...

up to about 2 seasons ago. That show sucks now.

Nirvana.. I think "Bleach" and "Incesticide" are great albums and definitely pretty fucking grunge. But "grunge" as a whole was moronic and ridiculous.

Yeah if I had to give grunge a sounds it'd be "Bleach".

yes grunge sucked. but in the late 80's, prior to the explosion of nirvana pearl jam (puke) and alice in chains (double puke), there were definitley some cool bands around seatlle and it was cool because there had always been good tunes comin out of seattle and then all of a sudden people noticed seattle and im a rambling moron who is defending a music genre that i dont even like besides one band and one other record (and the mevlins, as was said before, are not grunge)

Alice in chains is good shit, in my opinion.

Mudhoney are pretty good

The U-Men (though the "grunge" tag is debatable) are fucking awesome.

there's a grunge episode in the simpsons?

(besides "homerpalooza" featuring classic rocker peter framton, hip hoppers cypress hill, second generation no wavers sonic youth plus smashing pumpkins).

and the reason i started this thread is for things like this:


as in let's talk about music again!!!

alice in chains is just a motley crue who missed the 80's and changed their sounds to move with the times and inexplicanly became millionaires because of it.

I always considered Nirvana Pop, I never considered them rock or anything. However whenever a band no matter what genre they be r&b, rock, country, etc. I always considered them pop when they hit mainstream. Two me there is two types Pop and non-Pop, all music is susceptible to being pop. It is just when it is released to the mainstream that matters.

alice in chains were so intense.