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Sheriff Rhys Chatham 01.07.2008 11:29 AM

I agree with you though nic fit. I've got friends who hate bands and singers because of who they are and not what they do. Or because they are popular.
I say bring on the Merzbow and JoJo split release. (Though to be honest I find Merzbow's solo work quite iritating.)

batreleaser 01.07.2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
I'll never understand why being an avid listener of "extreme stuff" should prevent from having fun with/liking other less "extreme" stuff. Batreleaser, I can understand your point about mainstream kiddies and the related second part of the post, this is not a post "against you", rather a more generic rant.
Hell, I've got Zu and A Short Apnea cds next to "smash hits from the 60's" on my cd displayer (<---how do you call them?).
Liking something does not necessary imply an "objective", "artistic" value in the thing liked, it's just a feeling, a sensation, a matter of taste or even plain fun, after all. Like watching a Bergman movie followed by Toxic Avenger. One can enjoy both, even if they are on totally "different levels" from an objective pov.
nah?
porky summed it up pretty well in his post:
"What is there to get, exactly? You don't like her*, fair enough."


* replace "her" with band/artist name of choice.
sorry for the rant. have a nice day!


o no i totally agree, i listen to the beatles, beach boys, ramones, stones, van morrison, and tons of hip hop just as much as wierder louder stuff, but something like mia which is being advertised as "radical" is much harder for me to buy into, therefore people who listen to more "out there" music allready id think would have a hard time buying into mia's stuff, if that clears it up a little bit

SYRFox 01.07.2008 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
I'll never understand why being an avid listener of "extreme stuff" should prevent from having fun with/liking other less "extreme" stuff. Batreleaser, I can understand your point about mainstream kiddies and the related second part of the post, this is not a post "against you", rather a more generic rant.
Hell, I've got Zu and A Short Apnea cds next to "smash hits from the 60's" on my cd displayer (<---how do you call them?).
Liking something does not necessary imply an "objective", "artistic" value in the thing liked, it's just a feeling, a sensation, a matter of taste or even plain fun, after all. Like watching a Bergman movie followed by Toxic Avenger. One can enjoy both, even if they are on totally "different levels" from an objective pov.
nah?
porky summed it up pretty well in his post:
"What is there to get, exactly? You don't like her*, fair enough."
* replace "her" with band/artist name of choice.
sorry for the rant. have a nice day!


I totally agree. I listen to Mouthus and Simian Mobile Disco, Double Leopards and Franz Ferdinand, Death Unit and Radio 4, sometimes in a row.

sonicl 01.07.2008 11:50 AM

I wasn't aware that anyone had said that M.I.A.'s music was radical. It's pop music - the first album is bloody good pop music, and, for pop music, is bloody radical. The second album is nowhere as good as the first, but if someone gave me a choice between listening to that or listening to Wolf Eyes, I'd take the M.I.A. any day.

cellscape 01.07.2008 11:54 AM

I like her production and ecletic use of international sounds and beats. Even her little rebellious renegade persona fits it to and her non talented vocals not to mention she's not bad looking. But where as some LPs need several listens to get the full picture and grow into, hers quickly looses its luster and gets put aside. In fact it just gets annoying after too many listens. She's also a complete idiot after having read a few of her interviews or quite possibly mildly retarded. I don't really even know if she's sure of what she's trying to represent and she wines alot in almost complete gibberish. So to sum things up she has terrible fashion, talks too much, looks good, dances poorly, is pretty annoying with nice beats. The perfect recipe for a hate fuck.

Everyneurotic 01.07.2008 11:58 AM

it's not about her being pop, it's about her being crappy, untalented pop.

i much rather listen to paris hilton's album, sure it might not booster my indie cred but at least half the songs are good and the other are so embarransingly bad they are a riot of fun.

sarramkrop 01.07.2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cellscape
She's also a complete idiot after having read a few of her interviews or quite possibly mildly retarded. I don't really even know if she's sure of what she's trying to represent and she wines alot in almost complete gibberish. So to sum things up she has terrible fashion, talks too much, looks good, dances poorly, is pretty annoying with nice beats. The perfect recipe for a hate fuck.


^ ^^*Insert a big number of noise or, erm, experimental music artists here*

batreleaser 01.07.2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
^ ^^*Insert a big number of noise or, erm, experimental music artists here*



hahaha

Torn Curtain 01.07.2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicfit
I'll never understand why being an avid listener of "extreme stuff" should prevent from having fun with/liking other less "extreme" stuff. Batreleaser, I can understand your point about mainstream kiddies and the related second part of the post, this is not a post "against you", rather a more generic rant.
Hell, I've got Zu and A Short Apnea cds next to "smash hits from the 60's" on my cd displayer (<---how do you call them?).
Liking something does not necessary imply an "objective", "artistic" value in the thing liked, it's just a feeling, a sensation, a matter of taste or even plain fun, after all. Like watching a Bergman movie followed by Toxic Avenger. One can enjoy both, even if they are on totally "different levels" from an objective pov.
nah?
porky summed it up pretty well in his post:
"What is there to get, exactly? You don't like her*, fair enough."
* replace "her" with band/artist name of choice.
sorry for the rant. have a nice day!


You must spread some reputation around blah blah... :)

Savage Clone 01.07.2008 04:19 PM

This music is supremely annoying.
Fortunately, I have other choices.

Rob Instigator 01.07.2008 04:27 PM

MIA sucks ass. all that R&Bullshit sucks ass.

"Your general subject, Love, is minimal. It's sex for profit." - chuck D Public Enemy

fucking shit ass slow jams.

hang with the squares, the straits, the deluded brainless sheep that just want a beat to go suck off some fuck at a bar to.

nicfit 01.07.2008 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
MIA sucks ass. all that R&Bullshit sucks ass.

"Your general subject, Love, is minimal. It's sex for profit." - chuck D Public Enemy

fucking shit ass slow jams.

hang with the squares, the straits, the deluded brainless sheep that just want a beat to go suck off some fuck at a bar to.

R&B and slow jams = M.I.A. ?

Rob Instigator 01.07.2008 05:01 PM

all those chicks singing what they call "hip hop" (mary j blige, Mia, ashanti, wheoevr the fuck) are R&B ,

I FUCKING HATE that slow jam shit. HATE IT. I hate it so BAD>

nicfit 01.07.2008 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
all those chicks singing what they call "hip hop" (mary j blige, Mia, ashanti, wheoevr the fuck) are R&B ,

I FUCKING HATE that slow jam shit. HATE IT. I hate it so BAD>

are you sure you are not talking about mya?
 

M.I.A. has, like, a "slow" song per record.
I'm not trying to "persuade" you to like her music or anything, I just want to make sure we're talking about the same person :D, becuz I'm totally with you on this R&Bullshit thing, but I don't think M.I.A. has anything to do with that kind of music (except maybe for a couple songs, but it's a quite stretched link imo).

amyvega 01.07.2008 05:28 PM

MIA aint slow jam shit in the least...

i just love her, i thought kala was the best thing i heard in '07

Rob Instigator 01.07.2008 05:33 PM

man I likes some legs. can;t think abuot music anymore

Rob Instigator 01.07.2008 05:36 PM

so this is M.I.A>? from Sri Lanka?
 

Rob Instigator 01.07.2008 05:40 PM

her real name is
Maya Arulpragasam

what a mouthful!

I just heard 4 M.I.A. songs. it is most def not my thing. more power to her though. my opinion matters not.
another person "rapping" and singing over dance beats. YAWN

nicfit 01.07.2008 05:53 PM

yeah, that mia rob, now we're talkin' bout the same thing, if anything :)
p.s. amyvega, I love her too, as I said somewhere else in other threads.

sarramkrop 01.08.2008 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
her real name is
Maya Arulpragasam

what a mouthful!

I just heard 4 M.I.A. songs. it is most def not my thing. more power to her though. my opinion matters not.
another person "rapping" and singing over dance beats. YAWN


It's ok, she doesn't give a damn fuck about what you think, I'm sure.


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