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Originally Posted by Danny Himself

"Lover I Don't Have to Love" on Bright Eyes' Lifted album sucks ass because of the cheesy string section in the chorus.

but it's so hilarious! "i want a lover i don't have to LOOOVE/i want a girl who's too sad to give a fuck".. gold.

never liked "silver" or "no. 13 baby" off doolittle.

Right on about Changes by Black Sabbath.

I actually love The Replacements 'black diamond'. I know it's cheesy though.

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

hmm.

i actually think slint's for dinner on spiderland is one of their greatest songs.. there's something about the dynamics on that one. listen to it again. wonderful.

Trust me I've heard it loads of times. It's weird I know someone who thinks thats their best song. It would be an OK song by a different band, but when you compare to all other slint songs it's a bit crap.

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

anyway, my vote is electioneering by radiohead.

I agree.

Tim Buckley - Carnival song & Knight-errand (on Goodbye & Hello), Moulin rouge (on the otherwise perfect album Starsailor)
Neil Young - Piece of crap (on Sleeps with angels), Are you ready for the country (on Harvest), Come on baby let's go downtown (on Tonight's the night), For the turnstiles (on On the beach), Welfare mothers (on Rust never sleeps)
Joy Division - Isolation (on Closer)
SY - Contre le sexisme (on ATL), Hotwire my heart (on Sister), Plastic sun (on Murray street)
Jimi Hendrix - Little miss strange (on Electric ladyland)
Nick Drake - Know (on Pink moon)

little trouble girl - washing machine

panty lies - washing machine

Silver on Doolittle
Pennyroyal Tea on In Utero (An unpopular opinion)
Don, Aman on Spiderland (Drags on much. Even though most songs on Spiderland do, this one just bores me)
Freak Scene on Bug (Just annoys me)
Poledo on Living all over me
Violenza Domestica on Disco Volante
Big Man With a Gun on Downward Spiral
Kissability on DDN
Quest for the Cup on EJSTNS
Perfect Example on New Day Rising
Big Fan of the Pig Pen and Kicker of Elves (Though it is fun to sing along) on Bee Thousand

That's about it for now.

Violenza Domestica?!?!?!?!?!?!

that song is brilliant man.... if anything, I'd vote the bends (which i love, but..) or everyone i went to high school with is dead (opening the best album of all time with the worst song ever written? GENIUS!)

the rest of your picks are pretty agreeable..

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

No way man, I love Everyone I Went to High School is Dead! Probably my second favourite track on the album next to Carry Stress in the Jaw/Secret song. Actually you're right, I dislike the Bends more than Violenza, but I don't really consider it a song rather than a whole bunch of nautical inspired noise. I'd say that Bungle has a huge influence on Scissor Shock's music?

hahahaha. why yes, it has :) disco volante is probably what has inspired scissor shock the most...

my favorite song on that album is ma skeez mo skaws.. however it's spelled.. though carry stress in the jaw is fucking nuts... i didn't realize until recently that he was reading a poem in the middle of the song.. the bass follows every note he sings/reads... INSANE.. that part alone is just something so unbelievable and probably not many people pick up on it because it isn't "INSANE TIME CHANGE SSCREAMING !!!!!!!!!!"...

oh and who could forget merry go bye bye...

fuck, i need to do a classics album post..

Haha I was just listening to Merry Go Bye Bye. That would be my third favourite song on the album, probably tying with Ma Meeshka Mow Skwoz. And does the poem start around 2:20 on Carry Stress in the Jaw?

yes i believe so.

insane.

"In the multiplied objects of the external world I had no thoughts
but for the teeth...and of Bernice I more seriously believed that all her
teeth were thoughts...the white and ghastly spectrum of the teeth...
meditations were never pleasureable...the phantasma of the teeth
maintained its terrible ascendency..." (Poe)

Haha that's awesome. Fits in well with the theme of the song.

I think there are a lot of Sonic Youth albums this way actually... Panty Lies on Washing Machine, Plastic Sun on Murray Street, the aforementioned Bubblegum on the CD version of EVOL (though without it, the album is just perfect), My Friend Goo on Goo, Contre Le Sexisme on ATL... But the thing is, all of those albums are still amazing, one bad track can't screw up an album.

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Originally Posted by pbradley

Not a common occurrence, but don't you just hate that one song you can't stand in that otherwise flawless album? I know I do.

Replacement's Black Diamond sounds awful to me and I can't pin point it. The "ooh black diamond" sounds like "holy diver" to me and the whole "out of the streets for a living" sounds like the pseudo-tough guy stuff Guns N Roses would write. Otherwise, I love Let It Be.

Whenever I put on Zen Arcade, I expect continuous awesome and then "Monday Will Never Be The Same" comes on and I'm thoroughly confused. We don't need a slow down piano filler.

I would love Isn't Anything if the weird accidentally hip hop "Soft As Snow (But Warm Inside)" wasn't present. And the "wonk wonk" and the "break down" parts are annoying. But I do laugh when he asks Can I touch you there?

"Rape Me" is almost a total study in repetitive lyrics if it weren't for that middle versus which is nice but not enough. But I love the rest of In Utero.

Pixies' "There Goes My Gun" suffers from the same problem without the help of any verses at all. Friend or foe repeated three times... awesome.

"Bubblegum" makes absolutely no sense tacked onto the otherwise dark EVOL with the CD release. In fact putting anything after the ending to Expressway to Yr. Skull should be a crime. This was a leading reason as to why I didn't fully appreciate the album until I got it on vinyl and it's locked loop goodness.

There, it was nice to get those off my chest.

Out of all of these albums you mention, the ones I still listen to the most are Evol and The Replacements' Let It Be. You didn't indicate any acknowledgement that "Black Diamond" is a cover. It's a KISS song...a good KISS song, and it's a great cover by The 'Mats.

"Bubblegum" often gets singled-out in this manner; In no way is it so horrible that it deserves such treatment. There's plenty to enjoy about "Bubblegum." And, it's also a cover. It's originally by Kim Fowley and appears on his rather nutty 1968 album, Outrageous. Again, you didn't mention it was a cover in your post.

I very rarely listen to Zen Arcade ("What's Going On" usually) and I listen to the other albums you mentioned even less often.

The whole Isn't Anything? album is decent, but it's also overrated by people into "cool" music. The "Can I touch you there?" musical query you mention is awkward just as you cited. I prefer (hehe) Joan Jett to ask, "Do you wanna touch me there?"

Pixies did a lot of good stuff. They also wrote a bunch of junk too.

"Rape Me" is indeed annoying and In Utero is a good album; you got that one right.

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

Kissability on DDN

I know someone who thinks this is the best song on DDN when it is clearly the worst.

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Kissability on DDN

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Originally Posted by SonicSam

I know someone who thinks this is the best song on DDN when it is clearly the worst.

"Kissability" is probably best live, but I also like it just fine on the album. There are no bad tracks on Daydream Nation and it's difficult to single out any as "the worst." I can understand, however, that some would relegate "Kissability" or perhaps "Total Trash" to being the weakest. "Providence" also seems to inspire some difference of opinion.

Yeah total trash is the 2nd worst. When I say worst though, they are still good songs, but they could have been cut out the final mix.

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

Pennyroyal Tea on In Utero (An unpopular opinion)

I sort of agree. I always thought that song was stronger as acoustic. The version on With The Lights Out is amazingly personal. They really should have swapped the album version for that.

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Originally Posted by atari 2600

I wasn't even aware that Black Diamond was a cover. Huh. Anyways I don't listen to KISS so that really explains that then.

As for Bubblegum, I know it's a single and a decent single in it's own right but it really throws off the atmosphere of the really dark/surreal EVOL. Expressway to Yr. Skull ends on such an excellent conclusion of all the other tunes. As I stated elsewhere in this thread, Bubblegum just doesn't belong the album (not to say it's a shit song).

Just wanted to say that I hate the filler on zen arcade...

Also, it's funny that all the "bad sonic youth songs" are kim songs... :)

and I think isn't anything is far and away the best thing my bloody valentine ever did.. loveless has the filler (like 2 sub grunge slow plodders in the middle). Just my opinion.