That's cool you are into some mainstream stuff, and that you are willing to admit it on the SY board :)

IS IT GOOD

i like this artwork

That's a strange thing to say.

Never seent this one... how is it?

elitist perv.

Fun stuff

Itis pretty good. I think its a compilation of the songs that were on various artist mixtapes. Its eitehr right before carter 3 came out or right after, because he still wasn't using auto-tune.
Oh yeah, I got to hear some stuff live from the upcoming t-pain and lil wayne collabo album, it sounds pretty good.

Haha thanks. I dont really get flamed for it as much as it is that no one takes me seriously, but it doesn't really bother me.
And in regards to the fall out boy one, I'm just about to listen to it. I've never been a fan so dont take my word for it, but just look on the "what are you listening to thread" for my report on how it measures up.
My gf said lil wayne and elvis costello both make guest spots on it so I am at least a little intrigued.

& I have 6 more rare ones coming in the mail...

I like the cameos there. I always feel that the lines between all music are much more blurred than people think sometimes. You could play the degrees of separation game with people taste in music and cover the entire spectrum. And I believe that Fall Out Boy puts as much thought, sweat and tears into what they do as Sonic Youth, and when you judge the results, you are judging them on personal taste. Most musicians (except for some pop bands that truely are the product of record labels and Disney and such) really do care about what they are doing and really are trying to be their best, and when people say they are fake and sell outs, it's only because they don't personally like the sound.

I actually have a certain respect for Fall Out Boy's energy, the fact that they genuinely seem to enjoy music, and their ability to write a good hook... but let's not push it with our comparisons, huh?

Who is pushing? Even if they aren't as good as Sonic Youth, who are we to say that they are trying and working any less than Sonic Youth?

they do make a lot more money.

Because yr comparing a relatively young band to a band that have been trudging along for what? Almost 30 years now? I mean, do you really think Fall Out Boy has been confronted with the same hurdles that come with a 30 year career yet? I don't, which means we don't know if they're prone to throw in the towel earlier, which if they did, would mean they put in less blood, sweat, tears, earth, wind and fire than SY.

also, mcr > fob

Sure, but you are looking at the large picture. I'm talking album by album, song by song, they may put in the same efforts to put back out again.

I'm not even a fan of them, and I am not defending them against ones like you who give them credit for working hard. I'm defending them against those who automatically pass them off as a sellout band who go in with no intention other than to pump out hits for mall kids to lap up. In that context, my comparison stands. In a more balanced view of things, when you look closer, Sonic Youth comes out ahead, and I'm sure even Fall Out Boy would not deny that.

I hope that's a joke. (I'm not defending Fall Out Boy, but wow! Does My Chemical Romance suck.)

mcr=fob

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