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!@#$%! 10.16.2019 12:44 PM

lmao poor bytoad vomit is so addled and incoherent

“100% TRUTH”

“quote and reply”

roflmao

someone get him a stretcher

ilduclo 10.16.2019 02:14 PM

hey guys remember when our president dragged his failed-handbag-plagiarizing bubblehead daughter to the G20 summit and world leaders were smirking and rolling their eyes as she yammered away about shit she knew nothing about? yeah now tell me more about Hunter Biden and nepotism

guest 10.16.2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Of course, Trumps server in question is located in the White House and not a janitorial closet at a pizza place!

okay look I’m sorry dude but what happened to you? you used to come across as an intelligent human being, but this sort of stuff is genuinely deranged/concerning. people are accusing you of Fox News bait because you’re literally peddling the same dumb manchild conspiracies as them, you write in the exact same style as trump (complete with a basic misunderstanding of grammar) and because the shit you come up with is rooted in a misdirected, ultimately rootless hatred for anything that’s different to you, which you try to conceal within these absurd tales that justify in your own mind that you’re not a pig but to everyone else singnals that you are, indeed, filthy fucking swine.


I think it would be best if you tried to actually listen to what people (everyone) here are trying to communicate to you as I think it should be really clear that this sort of dialectic is uncomfortable but also totally unwelcome here

!@#$%! 10.16.2019 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guest
okay look I’m sorry dude but what happened to you? you used to come across as an intelligent human being, but this sort of stuff is genuinely deranged/concerning. people are accusing you of Fox News bait because you’re literally peddling the same dumb manchild conspiracies as them, you write in the exact same style as trump (complete with a basic misunderstanding of grammar) and because the shit you come up with is rooted in a misdirected, ultimately rootless hatred for anything that’s different to you, which you try to conceal within these absurd tales that justify in your own mind that you’re not a pig but to everyone else singnals that you are, indeed, filthy fucking swine.


I think it would be best if you tried to actually listen to what people (everyone) here is trying to communicate to you as I think it should be really clear that this sort of dialectic is uncomfortable but also totally unwelcome here

i congratulate you on your attempt to reason with the brain-damaged one there, although he never did come across as fully intelligent, just “nice,” and always terrible with the comma placement.

but now that the niceness has been replaced with shilling for his white supremacist overlords, spewing of russian propaganda, trumpist deflections, breitbart regurgitations, etc, there is nothing left to like.

so, really, good luck with your attempt. i made many in the past, eventually realized any honest effort with him was a waste of time, because he’s not just stupid, he’s also a liar, so now it’s just pies to the face from me to him, because letting him run rampant with impunity here is just not acceptable—he’s too fucking vile to behold.

Bytor Peltor 10.16.2019 04:18 PM

Out of everything I presented, you go after the low hanging fruit?

Okay, it was in a bathroom instead of a janitorial closet......happy?

Quote and reply and I’ll be happy to listen and discuss anything you present.

There Is absolutely no swine or hatred displayed by me on SYG!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by guest
okay look I’m sorry dude but what happened to you? you used to come across as an intelligent human being, but this sort of stuff is genuinely deranged/concerning. people are accusing you of Fox News bait because you’re literally peddling the same dumb manchild conspiracies as them, you write in the exact same style as trump (complete with a basic misunderstanding of grammar) and because the shit you come up with is rooted in a misdirected, ultimately rootless hatred for anything that’s different to you, which you try to conceal within these absurd tales that justify in your own mind that you’re not a pig but to everyone else singnals that you are, indeed, filthy fucking swine.


I think it would be best if you tried to actually listen to what people (everyone) here is trying to communicate to you as I think it should be really clear that this sort of dialectic is uncomfortable but also totally unwelcome here


choc e-Claire 10.16.2019 05:11 PM

You called someone a simple-minded juvenile literally last month.

ilduclo 10.16.2019 05:20 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhtieN31ut8

Trimp in meltdown about House vote on Syria.

"there are communists there, you would like that"

guest 10.16.2019 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Out of everything I presented, you go after the low hanging fruit?

Okay, it was in a bathroom instead of a janitorial closet......happy?

Quote and reply and I’ll be happy to listen and discuss anything you present.

There Is absolutely no swine or hatred displayed by me on SYG!!!

it's not low-hanging fruit, it's a complete fabrication. no one here has defended her use of a private server, much less even openly defended clinton at all, and yet you're placing everything into this narrative as you have nothing else to say other than these absurd talking points.

do you not understand that this entire worldview is rooted in hatred? people who share perspectives with you (and indeed yourself at this point sadly) couch these views within the context of absurd conspiracy theories as a means of justification for opinions that have no base in reality, and they're simply used as a sort of moral impetus for being against sources of power that emanate from places that you as a rapidly ageing white boomer simply can't comprehend. your resentment is directed exclusively at women or minorities, with a few figures derided by trump thrown in for good measure because you've been beckoned to mirror his thoughts.

I think it's abundantly clear that people here want to engage with you because we're genuinely concerned that someone who is invested in deeply as the same stuff as us can go so wildly off the deep end, but dialogue is reliant on the two parties actually being based in reality, from which you are quite blatantly divorced. you're pitting it as an 'us vs them' narrative because it gives you a moral warrior status (exclusively in your own view, everyone else thinks you're a bit off...) that you use to distract yourself from the underlying fact that you're hateful and bitter. you might try to justify it in your own mind as being a demarcation from the 'sheep', but the basic fact is that the shit you're spewing has a very real impact on very real people for whom you have no regard at all. I don't need to 'quote you' for 'truth', this isn't some fake news character assassination as you may want to see it, it's that the ideologies you've blanketed yourself with are inextricably attached to narratives of a really insidious origin.

h8kurdt 10.17.2019 03:42 AM

Trump didn't half fuck up with leaving the Kurds to the hounds didn't he?

The letter hes's sent to Ergodan about it is just solid gold. Sorry, I mean solid shit. In his head, and I'm sure the hardcore trump fans, he's showing America's might when the reality is everyone is just laughing at him.

Then him saying that the Kurds are as much of a terrorist threat as Isis are shows his level of understanding in...well anything. Absolutely cuckoo.

choc e-Claire 10.17.2019 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
a White racist perspective

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
you feel his perspective to be illegitimate


The absolute cognitive disconnect here. I'm in awe.

guest 10.17.2019 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I may not be Bytor, but I do, indeed, listen to what others on here say, whether it's comfortable for me to hear or not.

I've read your post sufficiently to understand that you're accusing him of coming from a White racist perspective without benefit of any examples of his own statements which might prove your point, and then tell him that his perspective is not welcome on this thread, which seems to imply that you feel his perspective to be illegitimate, simply due to Bytor's demographic origin.

You may wish to review the gravamen of your own accusation to determine your own guilt of the same.

if you had any basic analytical skills then you’d be able to register, as I directly stated like 3 times, that irrespective of one’s own individual identity/demography, being drawn to these perspectives is demonstrative of an institutional racism in that these ideologies are fundamentally xenophobic. the culpability is in refusing to acknowledge where these views arise from, as they’re inarguably hateful in origin. I said nothing of white people in general, and would love for you to point out where I in fact did.

also trying to try to obfuscate by saying this is any sort of racism towards whites (not even going to try to go into how ridiculous this is) is symptomatic of myopia, and doesn’t further any argument you’re trying to make.

ilduclo 10.17.2019 10:59 AM

Yesterday the Washington Post reported EU Ambassador, Trimp mega donor and Oregon big wig Gordon Sondland secured a cool $1 million in taxpayer dollars to renovate his government-owned residence in Brussels which includes a $400,000 kitchen, $95,000 for an outdoor "living pod" (whatever that is), and $33,000 in handmade Italian furniture. Sondland contends that the ambassador's residence was "deteriorated and nearly unusable," however others tell WaPo that's "bullshit" and that the house was "in excellent condition."

I got to visit the home of the US NATO rep in Bruxelles myself, and they don’t allow any US poobahs to live in an unusable residence, i’ll tell ya. Chk Google maps for Corniche Verte.

Bytor Peltor 10.18.2019 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guest
it's not low-hanging fruit, it's a complete fabrication. no one here has defended her use of a private server, much less even openly defended clinton at all, and yet you're placing everything into this narrative as you have nothing else to say other than these absurd talking points.


No one here has defended Hillary just like I haven’t been defending Donald. I get hammered for not calling out Donald, yet no one here has called out Hillary.

When I go against the grain (Mueller Report) for over a year and get it correct, the resentment towards me grows. Hate filled post directed at me that are full of bitterness, cussing and accusations of being a racist. Then when Robert points out that you have no statements by me where I’ve said anything racist, you attack him? Once again, my request for “quote and reply” are ignored.

I understand you are tired of hearing about Hillary and I’ll gladly refrain from mentioning her for a good while......at least until she announces that she’s running.

I’m curious, guest, who here is trying to communicate?

Bytor Peltor 10.18.2019 02:27 AM

“We’re not here to call bluffs. We’re here to find the truth, to uphold the Constitution of the United States,”

Why is the Speaker Of The House Shredding the Constitution?

Adam Schiff told MSNBC, "We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower. We would like to."

Adam Schiff "Expressed Regret" For Lying About Having No Prior Contact With Whistleblower

The House Intelligence Chair flat out lies and reads false statements into the Congressional Record that are broadcast on the national news......yet the Speaker refuses to recuse Shifty Schiff from his involvement in anything related to Impeachment???

Bytor Peltor 10.18.2019 02:37 AM

One key difference, the Trump family made their multi-millions long before Donald ran for President.

......and I wasn’t aware that any of Trump's daughters were sitting on foreign boards and drawing paychecks for doing so???

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilduclo
hey guys remember when our president dragged his failed-handbag-plagiarizing bubblehead daughter to the G20 summit and world leaders were smirking and rolling their eyes as she yammered away about shit she knew nothing about? yeah now tell me more about Hunter Biden and nepotism


!@#$%! 10.18.2019 09:05 AM

lmfao @ “i haven’t been defending donald” and the other endless lies bytor spews

pathological!

h8kurdt 10.18.2019 10:14 AM

Yeah, I'll have to admit I was a tad bewildered when I read that bit. Bless.

Bytor Peltor 10.18.2019 02:35 PM

According to the Dallas Morning News:

As Trump was regaling 20,000 supporters in Dallas, former congressman and Democratic presidential contender Beto O’Rourke staged a counter-rally at the Theatre in Grand Prairie attended by about 5,500.

!@#$%! 10.18.2019 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
According to the Dallas Morning News:

[[/url]

yep, you’re not defending trump, you’re just cherrypicking favorable mango bullshit “according to the dallas morning news” while pretending to wash your hands of any responsibility

lmao @ russian trolls — so pathetic

anyway, kindly eat shit and choke on it lolololol

Bytor Peltor 10.18.2019 03:31 PM

Regarding the Speaker shredding the Constitution......Time To Put Up Or SHUTUP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
“We’re not here to call bluffs. We’re here to find the truth, to uphold the Constitution of the United States,”

Why is the Speaker Of The House Shredding the Constitution?

Adam Schiff told MSNBC, "We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower. We would like to."

Adam Schiff "Expressed Regret" For Lying About Having No Prior Contact With Whistleblower

The House Intelligence Chair flat out lies and reads false statements into the Congressional Record that are broadcast on the national news......yet the Speaker refuses to recuse Shifty Schiff from his involvement in anything related to Impeachment???


Bytor Peltor 10.18.2019 03:42 PM

Washing my hands of what?

I linked a story from a newspaper.
Are you questioning the accuracy of the reporting?

YES - a couple of times over the past year or so I said I believe President Trump will easily win re-election. This is my opinion and guess what, I could be 100% wrong. Also, opinions shouldn’t necessarily be considered support!

I appreciate your acknowledgment that I’m not defending our President.

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yep, you’re not defending trump, you’re just cherrypicking favorable mango bullshit “according to the dallas morning news” while pretending to wash your hands of any responsibility


!@#$%! 10.18.2019 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Washing my hands of what?

I linked a story from a newspaper.
Are you questioning the accuracy of the reporting?

YES - a couple of times over the past year or so I said I believe President Trump will easily win re-election. This is my opinion and guess what, I could be 100% wrong. Also, opinions shouldn’t necessarily be considered support!

I appreciate your acknowledgment that I’m not defending our President.

im actually pointing out the clear intentions of your blogging, you utter indefensible dumbfuck

it’s okay, you don’t need to pretend to understand this—it’s just the rest of us, so we know how to treat you

keep either playing or being dumb, whichever applies

guest 10.19.2019 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
No one here has defended Hillary just like I haven’t been defending Donald. I get hammered for not calling out Donald, yet no one here has called out Hillary.

When I go against the grain (Mueller Report) for over a year and get it correct, the resentment towards me grows. Hate filled post directed at me that are full of bitterness, cussing and accusations of being a racist. Then when Robert points out that you have no statements by me where I’ve said anything racist, you attack him? Once again, my request for “quote and reply” are ignored.

I understand you are tired of hearing about Hillary and I’ll gladly refrain from mentioning her for a good while......at least until she announces that she’s running.

I’m curious, guest, who here is trying to communicate?

yeah look I can't be bothered with this, I went to an effort to engage with you and actually try to have a dialogue. but you don't actually acknowledge anything I've said, you don't seem to even remotely register anything I've written and just ignore it like a child.

your behaviour is petulant and there's a beautiful irony to you being obscenely juvenile here, and it's frankly just not worth engaging with you. saying that the actions of clinton are tantamount to the frequent assaults on democracy (much less basic human decency) of which the trump administration is inarguably guilty is totally ridiculous, and that you continue to resort to this little soundbite at the expense of actually having to engage with the shit you're proffering means it's an absolute waste of time trying to talk to you.

I didn't attack mister schlunk by any means, and until very recently no one attacked you until it became abundantly clear that it's like talking to a brick fucking wall.

h8kurdt 10.19.2019 01:31 AM

Clinton email investigation ends

Now Bytor can really shush about it. It's over.

_tunic_ 10.19.2019 04:34 AM

Trump vs. Trump: Kurds Edition
flip flop ;)

Also, this morning in Dutch press there was this article:
US Ambassador Hoekstra: 'The Netherlands jointly responsible for chaos in Syria'
let me know if that link ain't working for you. It's a Google translation. I don't see the video interview on the bottom of it, see the original article if you still want to watch it (but it might be that it's not possible for you). It's still interesting to watch, the interviewers of the Nieuwsuur program ("News Hour") have a great relationship with the ambassador, NOT. See in this older interview between 6:20 and 7:20


I guess there is some truth here, but we only had some F-16's there as far as I know, no ground troops or anything else.

Bytor Peltor 10.19.2019 08:30 AM

NOT ONE quote and reply!

Quote:

Originally Posted by guest
yeah look I can't be bothered with this


h8kurdt 10.19.2019 08:41 AM

So you don't think your constant obsession with calling Barack Obama "Hussein". The argument that "well that's his name" doesn't wash. You wouldn't call Trump "John", you wouldn't call Mike Pence "Richard" (I would call him Dick though). Fact is you were uncomfortable that the President of America had a middle name that was the same surname as Saddam. Your racist ass equates the two as being the same and that Obama is a terrorist. So to double down in that you call him Hussein instead of his first or middle name.

Bytor Peltor 10.19.2019 09:35 AM

Not once did I say or imply terrorist.

Multiple occasions I questioned if he might be proven a traitor.

Granting immunity so Hillary’s attorney could destroy emails is the reason.

Why would you think I was uncomfortable?

I was very active on SYG during all eight years of the Obama administration and I never said word one......no disparaging comments by me!


Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
So you don't think your constant obsession with calling Barack Obama "Hussein". The argument that "well that's his name" doesn't wash. You wouldn't call Trump "John", you wouldn't call Mike Pence "Richard" (I would call him Dick though). Fact is you were uncomfortable that the President of America had a middle name that was the same surname as Saddam. Your racist ass equates the two as being the same and that Obama is a terrorist. So to double down in that you call him Hussein instead of his first or middle name.


h8kurdt 10.19.2019 11:57 AM

So why constantly call him Hussein?

Bytor Peltor 10.19.2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
So why constantly call him Hussein?


I used it once and it drew such ire and aggravation, I returned to that well......perhaps too many times?

When others are referring to you as racist, wishing that your kids were taken and you were dead, one must be subtle in how they land a punch.

Who knew Nick Caves remarks about Antifa would be the straw to break guest’s camel? (should have been posting such things all along)

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Sometimes I swear you're just trolling.


Not really......just a few who are so easily baited : )

guest 10.19.2019 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Not once did I say or imply terrorist.

Multiple occasions I questioned if he might be proven a traitor.

Granting immunity so Hillary’s attorney could destroy emails is the reason.

Why would you think I was uncomfortable?

I was very active on SYG during all eight years of the Obama administration and I never said word one......no disparaging comments by me!

in saying Hussein you are inadvertently or otherwise implying that he’s a traitor, baselessly I might add, and the only ostensible reason you’re demonising him through referring to him as Hussein is because he is of colour. recognise the gravity of your words and don’t be such a coward.

guest 10.19.2019 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
Well, then you're saying that you're declaring his worldview to be racist/xenophobic by fiat. I've had that done to me in person this past spring by someone who said I "know all the right words" (because I know what I'm talking about) but my argument was still "racist" (because he said so!).

And I wasn't accusing you of "reverse racism" either. The great African-American labor leader A. Phillip Randolph wrote the following, possibly (as might be inferred from the internal context) in response to an accusation of anti-white racism concerning his position on immigration:

"Instead of reducing immigration to 2 percent of the 1890 quota, we favor reducing it to nothing.... We favor shutting out the Germans from Germany, the Italians from Italy...the Hindus from India, the Chinese from China, and even the Negroes from the West Indies. This country is suffering from immigrant indigestion. It is time to call a halt on this grand rush for American gold, which over-floods the labor market, resulting in lowering the standard of living, race-riots, and general social degradation. The excessive immigration is against the interests of the masses of all races and nationalities in the country — both foreign and native."1

mother of god

!@#$%! 10.19.2019 09:05 PM

drunkle bob tl;dr: make the 19th century great again

Bytor Peltor 10.20.2019 12:41 AM

You and a few others are doing the twisting!

This usually happens when one is filled with anger and bitterness.

All they know to do is lash out at others.

Poor losers......probably never got picked for kickball on the playground.

Eight years of Obama and no disparaging comments by me, that’s the TRUTH!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by guest
in saying Hussein you are inadvertently or otherwise implying that he’s a traitor, baselessly I might add, and the only ostensible reason you’re demonising him through referring to him as Hussein is because he is of colour. recognise the gravity of your words and don’t be such a coward.


h8kurdt 10.20.2019 01:52 AM

So why start after his terms were over?

choc e-Claire 10.20.2019 02:22 AM

Cripes - I know Sonic Youth fans are thought of as pretentious, but have you ever thought about toning it down a bit, Rob?

choc e-Claire 10.20.2019 02:44 AM

Right, now try and say that in a way that doesn't make you sound like some smartass Socrates wannabe.

demonrail666 10.20.2019 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

The reason I frequently refer to the America of a century ago is due to the regression which American society has undergone since about 1972, to the extent that today's American social reality resembles that of a century ago more than it resembles that of fifty years ago. I frequently read Comrade Victor Berger's century-old editorials in the Socialist newspaper "The Milwaukee Leader" (published as a book entitled: "Berger's Broadsides") because they speak to the century-old social reality into which the American ruling class has plunged us in the last 50 years.

The Democratic Party's solution to this social crisis is to mystify class conflict by confounding it with racial, religious, sexual and whatnot conflict in order to isolate the working class amidst a sea of petit-bourgois and lumpenproletarian elements who present themselves as "oppressed" rebels against the current unjust social order while hoping nobody notices that the government, the military, academia, the corporate media, and every other instrument of ruling-class power is concertedly supporting the controlled "rebellion".

It's a cute trick if you can get away with it. I see my job as making sure they can't and won't get away with it.


You're right about this new 'woke' Left representing a kind of controlled rebellion but, given that industrialisation was the very thing that gave Marx's concept of class any real meaning, do you (as a self-proclaimed Marxist) really think that class, and especially class-conflict, is a viable idea within the context of an increasingly de-industrialised West? After all, many of those we'd traditionally consider working class moved away from the very kind of manual and manufacturing jobs that Marx saw as key to their revolutionary potential towards a very different kind of employment: within the service industries, or in white collar jobs, or in many cases continuing in manual or manufacturing work, but as their own bosses. Nor should we forget those made unemployed as a consequence of de-industrialisation, who became part of the lumpenproletariat as a result.

These people (whatever we want to call them) definitely deserve far better political representation than I currently see them getting from the 'woke'/'progressive' Left but I'm no longer sure that an emphasis on class, especially in terms of Marx's rather narrow and historically-defined concept of it, is particularly helpful to them either right now.

!@#$%! 10.20.2019 10:28 AM

class without accounting for race?

this is what happens when you’re middle class, even upper middle class, and black in america

http://powerreporting.com/color/color_of_money.pdf

h8kurdt 10.20.2019 01:47 PM


And Bernie had 25,000 people turn up to his rally in Queens yesterday :rolleyes:

Many such numbers


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