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!@#$%! 07.28.2015 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Yup


that's too bad. anyone who punches a tv puss deserves public honors. tv pusses are the kind of people who instead of returning a punch hide under a table screaming "i'll sue you..."

actually i don't know wtf really happened but still. any day a tv puss gets punched is a good day. regardless of who or how. chepo should get a free pass.

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chepo! wtf am i mumbling about. piojo herrera. i need sleep.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.29.2015 01:18 PM

Oh, i supported Marshon Lynch and the "Yall Know Why Im Here" anti press campaign and it was hilarious reading all the sports media hypocritically tirade against him in all there indignant articles.. but there is an unspoken rule that coaches don't get into squabbles with the media. And i am admittedly biased against the MEHxico team

!@#$%! 07.29.2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Oh, i supported Marshon Lynch and the "Yall Know Why Im Here" anti press campaign and it was hilarious reading all the sports media hypocritically tirade against him in all there indignant articles.. but there is an unspoken rule that coaches don't get into squabbles with the media. And i am admittedly biased against the MEHxico team


i don't know wtf is marshon (no need to explain) but this is good for team usa playing vs. mexico in october to see who goes to this confederations dog & pony show.

demonrail666 07.30.2015 02:46 AM

Any change in leadership to the Mexico team has to be seen as a potential long term benefit. They're one of the most underachieving teams in world football. They should be a power house. I'm not saying replacing Herrera will unlock their potential (right now they just don't have the players) but surely eventually someone will come along, with a better squad to play with, who does.

!@#$%! 07.30.2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Any change in leadership to the Mexico team has to be seen as a potential long term benefit. They're one of the most underachieving teams in world football. They should be a power house. I'm not saying replacing Herrera will unlock their potential (right now they just don't have the players) but surely eventually someone will come along, with a better squad to play with, who does.


really? i don't think they have the players to be a powerhouse. their most creative player of the last few years, giovanni dos santos, is meekly joining the MLS at the ripe age of 26 after failing to make it in spain. chicharito the goalpoacher? how did that work out for him at man u or real madrid?

the best i've ever seen them play was at the last world cup-- under herrera. and vs. chile at the copa américa they put on a nice show. but no powerhouse, they don't have the players. not shitting on them, honest-- but they produce better boxers than futbolistas.

and you should have seen them before herrera-- they were a motherfucking disgrace.

so sorry about piojo going. is it wrong for an adult to punch another man at an airport? yes, it's wrong. so, make him pay a fine or throw him for a weekend in jail or give him lashes or something. mexico just fucked themselves out of their best coach in years.

demonrail666 07.30.2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
really? i don't think they have the players to be a powerhouse. their most creative player of the last few years, giovanni dos santos, is meekly joining the MLS at the ripe age of 26 after failing to make it in spain. chicharito the goalpoacher? how did that work out for him at man u or real madrid?


No I agree, but for a country of that size and which seems to have a strong football culture (I think) it just seems weird that they haven't produced more players. Is football not their national sport?

!@#$%! 07.30.2015 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
No I agree, but for a country of that size and which seems to have a strong football culture (I think) it just seems weird that they haven't produced more players. Is football not their national sport?


it's definitely the most popular one, but it's curiously divided. depends on the region-- they play a lot of béisbol too in some parts. but still, yeah...

i don't know why they haven't produced a lot of great talent. hugo sánchez comes to mind, but beyond him who else?

demonrail666 07.31.2015 11:24 AM

Just watched a replay of west ham throwing away a 2 goal lead. Starting to wonder if they just want out of the europa league. Definitely wouldn't mind if they do.

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Just watched a replay of west ham throwing away a 2 goal lead. Starting to wonder if they just want out of the europa league. Definitely wouldn't mind if they do.


is that an europa qualifier?

demonrail666 07.31.2015 11:57 AM

Pre-qualifier! We're not even in the group stage yet. It's a joke. This is gonna be a really hard season in the Prem and we could do without the distractions of a crappy tournament we stand next to no chance of winning anyway. As it is we've already sustained 2 injuries we really can't afford.

The irony is we only got in through a fair play award but since getting our new manager we've had 3 red cards in 5 games.

Sooner we're ejected the better.

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 11:59 AM

right right-- you got on the fringes and are trying to get eliminated. makes perfect sense on getting out without defying fifa.

so who was your new manager? i know i could google that easily but then i'd miss your followup commentary

demonrail666 07.31.2015 12:18 PM

It's Slaven Bilic. Ex West Ham player (and Everton), Croatian national coach. Loves his ciggies. Bit of a hothead: he was sent to the stands last night for getting in the referee's face. Whether he makes the grade in the Prem, who knows, but I like him. We're actually exciting to watch again. My girlfriend wants to fuck him.

 


http://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?k...WQAEK9g1 .jpg

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 12:25 PM

haaa haaaa haaaa haaaaaa

dang

demonrail666 07.31.2015 12:36 PM

Aspects of his personality actually remind me a bit of Klopp. That weird mix of aggressive intensity and almost stoner laid backness.

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 12:47 PM

just read his wikipedia

looks like he gets thrown out OFTEN

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 12:49 PM

fuck, power out again. gotta save batt for emergencies. chat later!

demonrail666 07.31.2015 01:13 PM

He's a big risk for sure. He wasn't my first or even second choice. He only got it because the other targets the board were after turned us down and Bilic apparently really loves the club and has a genuine bond with the fans. Unlike with Sam the fans really want him to succeed, so they'll give him more time and accept the occasional dip in performance, for a while anyway, so long as we keep playing attractive attacking football and aren't in danger of getting relegated. Would I have preferred Bielsa, or Emery? Definitely. But it wasn't to be and realistically we aren't big enough to attract that calibre of manager. Bilic was a realistic appointment and a generally popular one with the fans, I'd say. And he's already attracting some real quality flair players. Look out for Dimitri Payet this season. He looks really good. A real assist-machine by the looks of things, excellent on the ball, beautiful passer, and, as such, the very kind of player Sam would've never even considered.

Fingers crossed.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.31.2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i don't know wtf is marshon (no need to explain) but this is good for team usa playing vs. mexico in october to see who goes to this confederations dog & pony show.

Hahaha you really do live under some NM rock yo..
 

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Hahaha you really do live under some NM rock yo..
 


i live on a mountain actually

and power was just restored.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.31.2015 01:39 PM

Mexico has very successful domestic leagues, their players aren't ever interested in playing abroad in "more competitive" leagues because they make a good living playing at home and have a good local celebrity following. Mexico does has fantastic futbol culture, they just aren't interested in playing elsewhere. And !@#$! is spot on, internationally they develop better boxers..

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Mexico has very successful domestic leagues, their players aren't ever interested in playing abroad in "more competitive" leagues because they make a good living playing at home and have a good local celebrity following. Mexico does has fantastic futbol culture, they just aren't interested in playing elsewhere. And !@#$! is spot on, internationally they develop better boxers..


yes, but traditionally, malnutrition has also played a role in limiting the pool of available athletes. i wanted to mention this the other day but didn't want to pile on.

e.g.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americ...055804722.html

now they're also on the other side of malnutrition, a country more obese than the US

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...ms.html?pg=all

it's fucked up.

h8kurdt 07.31.2015 01:46 PM

Good to see a fan's point of view on the Billic thing. As for the Europa Cup, it's pretty much a curse for any team who gets into it. The clubs in it aren't usually blessed with big squads that can handle that and the league. Plus you've now got Russian teams involved which is a hell of a lot more travel thn travlling to say Spain or whereever. Hate it.

Mourinho has said Chelsea won't bid any more for the Everton defender Stones (last bid was £26 mill)l. Man, am I glad about that. Now all Martinez needs to buy is just one defender and another striker.

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 01:48 PM

so you're sticking with martinez after all? good. i like the guy.

h8kurdt 07.31.2015 01:48 PM

BTW, The Guardians team-by-team preview for the Premier League has been brillint so far. Worth a read, even if just for a couple of the teams that interest you.

Lefty paper

h8kurdt 07.31.2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
so you're sticking with martinez after all? good. i like the guy.


Aye. Not sure how this season is going to go though. I'm not even wanting to make a prediction on it.

EDIT:In fact I'd go as far as to say I'm dreading the season start.

demonrail666 07.31.2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Aye. Not sure how this season is going to go though. I'm not even wanting to make a prediction on it.

EDIT:In fact I'd go as far as to say I'm dreading the season start.




Big season for Martinez but if you do struggle I think it'll be more to do with Kenwright spending so much time trying to keep the players you already have that you won't have strengthened enough. Deulofeu looks good but Cleverley?

The teams around you are spending heavily and you could fall behind a bit. I think you'll ultimately be safe but can see this being a very hard season for both of us.

No idea about relegation but I can see this being a good season for Arsenal. With Costas's hamstring flairing up again, Mourinho may well find his faith in Falcao biting him, especially as he's hardly made of iron himself, even if he does get some of his form back. Same for Man City. Aguerro's brilliant but where's their cover if/when he gets injured?

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
The teams around you are spending heavily and you could fall behind a bit. I think you'll ultimately be safe but can see this being a very hard season for both of us.


or, you could buy what they're selling off, cheap, because there's nobody else left to buy above them, and hit them with their own former players

demonrail666 07.31.2015 06:15 PM

What do you mean?

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
What do you mean?


a kind of "what goes up must go down"

a team cannot buy every player in existence, so in order to buy someone they have to get rid of someone--right?

when top teams unload, in average they shouldn't be able tounload for a higher price than they themselves would pay-- because they're the top bidders. i'm not saying that they might not be able to sell a star or two for a high price, but given that other teams can pay less than they do, they need to sell at an agreeable price to buyers.

so, basically, all you need to do to outfit a top team is to attend the yardsales of big spenders. kinda like shopping at a thrift store in a rich neighborhood. and then you turn around and beat them with their own ex-players.

demonrail666 07.31.2015 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

so, basically, all you need to do to outfit a top team is to attend the yardsales of big spenders. kinda like shopping at a thrift store in a rich neighborhood. and then you turn around and beat them with their own ex-players.


There's lots of reasons why that never happens, chief among them being the loans system. Big teams don't have to sell. They can stockpile as many players as they can afford and then just farm those they don't need out on loan. Sometimes those loans turn into permanent deals (Lukaku at Everton started there as a loanee from Chelsea) but most of the time they just provide cover for a season or two until they're recalled, usually to be loaned somewhere else. Chelsea alone have about 30 players currently out on loan.

!@#$%! 07.31.2015 07:38 PM

holy shit, 30????

see, a quick way to restore parity should be to limit the roster size. not just of active players but also the loaners.

best time to buy a great 2nd hand car is when everyone is buying new ones

demonrail666 08.01.2015 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

see, a quick way to restore parity should be to limit the roster size. not just of active players but also the loaners.


I personally think loans should be outlawed altogether. Besides the negative effect it has on smaller teams, in terms of the actual players involved it feels like little more than a slave trade. If a team owns a player then he should be counted as part of their squad.

!@#$%! 08.01.2015 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I personally think loans should be outlawed altogether. Besides the negative effect it has on smaller teams, in terms of the actual players involved it feels like little more than a slave trade. If a team owns a player then he should be counted as part of their squad.


that's bananas. bayern had 7 in and 7 out. some of those are loans.

i just saw the transfer log for chelsea this season and it looks insane.

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and fox soccer 2go finally has bundesliga on!!!

german supercup today -- wolfsburg vs. bayern -- a great starter for the year

ah... looking forward to this season... finally able to watch bundesliga the right way... no more bullcaca streams...

apparently the FA community shield will also be on

demonrail666 08.01.2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that's bananas. bayern had 7 in and 7 out. some of those are loans.

i just saw the transfer log for chelsea this season and it looks insane.



The big news here is actually how little business Chelsea are doing. Which only goes to show how busy they've been in the past.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
apparently the FA community shield will also be on


Not a match I usually bother with but this year it looks quite intriguing. Arsenal will be making a genuine bid for the title but Wenger really struggles tactically against Mourinho. If he can beat him tomorrow it'll be a real statement.

!@#$%! 08.01.2015 10:52 AM

yeah i remember their tiff last year, can't recall what match, and wenger looking really angry. did they almost get physical? their interactions should be broadcast separately ha ha ha ha.

demonrail666 08.01.2015 02:53 PM

Some pushing, mostly from Wenger. He genuinely dislikes Mourinho.

Although I'm nervous about how West Ham will do I'm really looking forward to this season. Seems wide open at the top and the bottom ends of the Prem. I really like the look of Arsenal this season but something about them always makes me think they'll ultimately fall short. But if they can tighten up at the back they could be a real force.

!@#$%! 08.01.2015 03:05 PM

vidal in for thiago!

bayern ahead 1-0

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and now wolfsburg ahead in penalty kicks!

..


...aaaaaaand wolfsburg wins, ha ha ha ha.

oh, pep oh pep oh pep!

demonrail666 08.01.2015 03:35 PM

How has Thiago generally done at Bayern?

!@#$%! 08.01.2015 03:37 PM

was hurt last year mostly. today i only realized he was there when he was subbed out.

demonrail666 08.01.2015 05:22 PM

That'll explain why I'd heard nothing about him for so long. Wasn't he meant to be Pep's big statement signing when he first got there?


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