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noisereductions 10.27.2016 12:23 PM

nobody cares about Kevin Gates. Not even old school heads.

Rob Instigator 10.27.2016 03:16 PM

Third Coast, Dirty South 4 Life

louder 10.27.2016 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
nobody cares about Kevin Gates. Not even old school heads.

He's pretty popular.. but I hear most of his fanbase is white people whose fav genre is country. :confused:

louder 10.27.2016 03:24 PM

@ NR: I just revisit Taylor's 1989 today and it's still a nice album..

noisereductions 10.27.2016 03:54 PM

I was being tongue-in-cheek, but also not. I don't imagine that dude to having much staying power. Maybe I'm wrong. Shrug.

1989 is such a great album. I love it.

louder 10.27.2016 04:19 PM

Have you heard "Red"? It's another good one. I haven't heard her older stuff yet though..

Rob Instigator 10.27.2016 04:36 PM

Kevin Gates has been making records for a decade now. Came up out da mud, he don;t get tired.

noisereductions 10.27.2016 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by louder
Have you heard "Red"? It's another good one. I haven't heard her older stuff yet though..


Hell yeah

louder 10.28.2016 05:57 AM

New A TRIBE CALLED QUEST album in 2 weeks. 2016 is just the best year ever haha.

http://pitchfork.com/news/69378-q-ti...d-quest-album/

noisereductions 10.28.2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
New A TRIBE CALLED QUEST album in 2 weeks. 2016 is just the best year ever haha.

http://pitchfork.com/news/69378-q-ti...d-quest-album/


this is amazing news. I am really excited.

2016's been weird for me for hip hop. Basically, a few REALLY great albums and then a bunch that haven't held my interest.

Severian 10.28.2016 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by louder
He's pretty popular.. but I hear most of his fanbase is white people whose fav genre is country. :confused:


Whaaaaaaaa?
Kevin Gates?

Ok, due to some less than optimal circumstances, I found myself living in an area with a FUCKLOAD of white people whp listen to country music a little over a year ago. I can tell you with full confidence that I have never heard the words "Kevin's Gates" said out loud in person by ANYONE.

I think your need to check your sources. White country fuckers still love Eminem. In fact, they seem tlike be almost stuck in a time capsule where Eminem is the only rapper that matters. (Got into it in a friendly way with a co-worker about Em last spring... he was downright shocked to learn that I, a hip-hop fan, didn't like Eminem! He actually said, "You don't like Eminem? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that before." ... so... yeah... time capsule)

Kevin Gates is good enough and skilled enough to build an underground fan base, and his first major label album was a fairly big hit. I think if he followed Islam up quickly with a really strong record a la Long.Live.A$AP or Section80, he could potentially have a nice solid few years of mainstream success ahead of him.

Plus Chance namedropped him on "Angels" so...

Severian 10.28.2016 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
nobody cares about Kevin Gates. Not even old school heads.


I see whatcha did there. Cause of the Nas thing, right?

Don't worry NR. We stolidly and undniably won the fuck out of that little argument. We shut that shit down like a SWAT team on a drug bust.

louder 10.28.2016 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Whaaaaaaaa?
Kevin Gates?

Ok, due to some less than optimal circumstances, I found myself living in an area with a FUCKLOAD of white people whp listen to country music a little over a year ago. I can tell you with full confidence that I have never heard the words "Kevin's Gates" said out loud in person by ANYONE.

I think your need to check your sources. White country fuckers still love Eminem. In fact, they seem tlike be almost stuck in a time capsule where Eminem is the only rapper that matters. (Got into it in a friendly way with a co-worker about Em last spring... he was downright shocked to learn that I, a hip-hop fan, didn't like Eminem! He actually said, "You don't like Eminem? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that before." ... so... yeah... time capsule)

Kevin Gates is good enough and skilled enough to build an underground fan base, and his first major label album was a fairly big hit. I think if he followed Islam up quickly with a really strong record a la Long.Live.A$AP or Section80, he could potentially have a nice solid few years of mainstream success ahead of him.

Plus Chance namedropped him on "Angels" so...

Honestly, the "white people love Kevin Gates" thing was a meme on Twitter. Not sure if it holds any credibility. But he's actually the most streamed artist in the South, believe it or not..

http://djbooth.net/news/entry/2016-0...treaming-south

"Kevin Gates is Dominating the Charts & No One’s Noticing"

louder 10.28.2016 11:04 AM

"Most Popular Artist in # of States

Drake: 36 States
Kevin Gates: 5 States
Eminem: 5 States
Fetty Wap: 2 States
Taylor Swift: 2 States"

louder 10.28.2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions
this is amazing news. I am really excited.

2016's been weird for me for hip hop. Basically, a few REALLY great albums and then a bunch that haven't held my interest.

As far as hip-hop goes, so far I got TLOP, Coloring Book, the TDE releases (Isaiah, Schoolboy, untitled unmastered) and Danny Brown (which admittedly I've only heard once) on top of everything.

Now I'm waiting for A Tribe Called Quest to join this list. :)

Severian 10.28.2016 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
New A TRIBE CALLED QUEST album in 2 weeks. 2016 is just the best year ever haha.

http://pitchfork.com/news/69378-q-ti...d-quest-album/


I fucking know!
(Well... not the best year ever... look at all the half assed rock and punk that's dribbled out this year? Ugh.)
But a damn good year or hip-hop the likes of which we haven't seen since 2013, yup.

There's still been a fuck ton of albums that seemed alright for a minute just because they didn't suck completely (remember that Bas album I tried to get you all to listen to and you never did? Probably just as well) but with EXCELLENT albums by Kanye, Chance and Danny and some really fucking good ones by Isaiah, Frank, Schoolboy, Kendrick, Travi$, Keith.... yeah, it's been something.

The fact that we're going to have new A$AP Mob AND fucking ATCQ albums in the best 2 weeks is almost too much.

I really fucking wish Pusha had dropped King Push, the stubborn fucker, but ... meh. Maybe he's just waiting for the optimal time. Darkest Before Dawn kinda got swallowed up by its mid-December release.

louder 10.28.2016 11:12 AM

Pusha should wait until next year.. honestly, I think J. Cole's next album should be interesting. I read he recorded some of it in Jamaica at the same studio Lauryn recorded Miseducation. It's probably gonna have some reggae influence.

Severian 10.28.2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louder
"Most Popular Artist in # of States

Drake: 36 States
Kevin Gates: 5 States
Eminem: 5 States
Fetty Wap: 2 States
Taylor Swift: 2 States"


Popularity I assume being measured by steams. Ugh.

So, Fetty Wap is more popular than The Beatles and MJ and Madonna ... anywhere in the world? I do not believe that is true.

louder 10.28.2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Popularity I assume being measured by steams. Ugh.

So, Fetty Wap is more popular than The Beatles and MJ and Madonna ... anywhere in the world? I do not believe that is true.

He was streamed heavily for a few months last year I guess, because of 3 maybe 4 hit singles.

Severian 10.28.2016 11:31 AM

Barrack Obama and I have the same taste in hip-hop.

http://pitchfork.com/news/69388-obam...ye-drake-jay-z

'Course I hate Drake, and I don't think anyone can argue that Jay Z is truly still "the king" (obviously that's Kanye and has been for many years, much as I love Jay) but he gets that Kendrick and Chance are at the forefront of the youth movement. He is correct. I'll bet he likes Push too, but doesn't want to openly admire such a druggy persona.

Interesting that he's known Chance since he was wee. I didn't realize that Chance's dad was the State Director in Illinois. Damn!


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