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Rob Instigator 10.09.2007 01:21 PM

i used no race card. I used a nationality and religion card.
mexicans are not a "race" they are a nationality.
canadians are not a "race" either

race is a meaningless term left over from the 1800's, created when upper class white europeans were categorizing the animal kingdom and then the "human" kingdom into a hierarchy of species.
they created human "races" to place them in order between the great apes and the highly evolved top-level "caucasians"
it is all BULLSHIT

there is one human race.

floatingslowly 10.09.2007 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
i used no race card. I used a nationality and religion card.
mexicans are not a "race" they are a nationality.
canadians are not a "race" either


touche'!

Savage Clone 10.09.2007 01:40 PM

I still don't think I could find Friggens on a map.

!@#$%! 10.09.2007 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
i used no race card. I used a nationality and religion card.
mexicans are not a "race" they are a nationality.
canadians are not a "race" either

race is a meaningless term left over from the 1800's, created when upper class white europeans were categorizing the animal kingdom and then the "human" kingdom into a hierarchy of species.
they created human "races" to place them in order between the great apes and the highly evolved top-level "caucasians"
it is all BULLSHIT

there is one human race.


 


cheeto for president

ThePits 10.09.2007 02:02 PM

race (PEOPLE) Show phonetics
noun [C or U]
a group, especially of people, with particular similar physical characteristics, who are considered as belonging to the same type, or the fact of belonging to such a group:
People of many different races were living side by side.
Discrimination on grounds of race will not be tolerated.
An increasing number of people in the country are of mixed race (= with parents of different races).


race Show phonetics
group noun [C]
a group of people who share the same language, history, characteristics, etc:
LITERARY The British are an island race.


Those are the definitions of race, how can you possibly say races do not exist?

floatingslowly 10.09.2007 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I still don't think I could find Friggens on a map.


it's right next to The Iraq and South Africa.

!@#$%! 10.09.2007 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePits
race (PEOPLE) Show phonetics
noun [C or U]
a group, especially of people, with particular similar physical characteristics, who are considered as belonging to the same type, or the fact of belonging to such a group:
People of many different races were living side by side.
Discrimination on grounds of race will not be tolerated.
An increasing number of people in the country are of mixed race (= with parents of different races).


race Show phonetics
group noun [C]
a group of people who share the same language, history, characteristics, etc:
LITERARY The British are an island race.


Those are the definitions of race, how can you possibly say races do not exist?


Noun

S: (n) unicorn (an imaginary creature represented as a white horse with a long horn growing from its forehead)

Rob Instigator 10.09.2007 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePits
race (PEOPLE) Show phonetics
noun [C or U]
a group, especially of people, with particular similar physical characteristics, who are considered as belonging to the same type, or the fact of belonging to such a group:
People of many different races were living side by side.
Discrimination on grounds of race will not be tolerated.
An increasing number of people in the country are of mixed race (= with parents of different races).


race Show phonetics
group noun [C]
a group of people who share the same language, history, characteristics, etc:
LITERARY The British are an island race.


Those are the definitions of race, how can you possibly say races do not exist?


those are the self-same "definitions" created out of thin air by the very people I was talking about dude.

"leprechauns" and "Santa Claus" have definitions too but they do not exist.

RACES are an idea, an idea that is plain wrong.

king_buzzo 10.09.2007 02:25 PM

i am cornholio.

i have no bunghole.

!@#$%! 10.09.2007 02:25 PM

in other words, it's a social construction which is politically loaded but has little basis in (scientific) reality.

floatingslowly 10.09.2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
in other words, it's a social construction which is politically loaded but has little basis in scientific reality.


like message boards??

!@#$%! 10.09.2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
like message boards??


yes!!

speaking of reality, i need to answer some reality emails. i'll message you later about your dallas Xperience, or we can always hijack a thread.

floatingslowly 10.09.2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
we can always hijack a thread.


sounds cozy.

pick one, they're a dime-a-dozen around this place.

ThePits 10.09.2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
Noun

S: (n) unicorn (an imaginary creature represented as a white horse with a long horn growing from its forehead)


Note the use of the word "imaginary", I didn't see that in the definitions of race for some reason..........


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
those are the self-same "definitions" created out of thin air by the very people I was talking about dude.

"leprechauns" and "Santa Claus" have definitions too but they do not exist.

RACES are an idea, an idea that is plain wrong.


By your yardstick so is nationality that you insist exists earlier

Also under the definitions for leprechauns and santa claus there is the word "imaginary"

Absent from the definition of "race"

DNA also confirms different races

Several eminent scientists have been using DNA to plot the migration of races over the centuries across asia and europe

Or are they imagining things too?

I also fail to see what is wrong with the term "race"

Shouldn't we all be proud of our heritage, origins, and culture?

Isn't it the fact that because there are different races that life is such a rich tapestry of culture and diversity?

sarramkrop 10.09.2007 02:49 PM

Reading Charles Darwin would give you a clearer understanding of what race and ethnic mean. Seriously, give him a go.

!@#$%! 10.09.2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePits
Note the use of the word "imaginary", I didn't see that in the definitions of race for some reason..........




By your yardstick so is nationality that you insist exists earlier

Also under the definitions for leprechauns and santa claus there is the word "imaginary"

Absent from the definition of "race"

DNA also confirms different races

Several eminent scientists have been using DNA to plot the migration of races over the centuries across asia and europe

Or are they imagining things too?

I also fail to see what is wrong with the term "race"

Shouldn't we all be proud of our heritage, origins, and culture?

Isn't it the fact that because there are different races that life is such a rich tapestry of culture and diversity?


damn thread, keeps pulling me back.

the dictionary features word coinage, not the accuracy or reality of those words. when you want to study a subject you don't read dictionary entries on it, do you?

a few decades ago dictionaries used to coin masturbation and homosexuality as "diseases" or "vices" or whatever the fuck.

race is a social construct. it's made of 99.9% politics and 0.1% biology, give and take. genetically, there are more individual differents among individuals than among "races". genetically, there is more diversity among africans than between the rest of humanity, yet the dictionary lumps them as a "race".

there are some gross genetic differences between isolated populations however, but those differences do not correlate very well with political concepts of "race".

Rob Instigator 10.09.2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePits
Note the use of the word "imaginary", I didn't see that in the definitions of race for some reason..........




By your yardstick so is nationality that you insist exists earlier

Also under the definitions for leprechauns and santa claus there is the word "imaginary"

Absent from the definition of "race"

DNA also confirms different races

Several eminent scientists have been using DNA to plot the migration of races over the centuries across asia and europe

Or are they imagining things too?

I also fail to see what is wrong with the term "race"

Shouldn't we all be proud of our heritage, origins, and culture?

Isn't it the fact that because there are different races that life is such a rich tapestry of culture and diversity?


I donlt think anyone should be proud of anything that happened by pure circumstance, like being born rich, being born black, being born ukranian, etc.

"race" is another word for "breed". it is a divisionary tactic.

all humans can mate and reproduce with all other humans. same goes for all dogs.
they and we are just one species.


scientists have not been exploring the migration of RACES, they have been studying ethnic groups. indian people are as brown as african americans, but they are not in the "black" race" it is all BULLSHIT.

ThePits 10.09.2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Reading Charles Darwin would give you a clearer understanding of what race and ethnic mean. Seriously, give it a go.


I'll give Darwin another go, its been years since I read any of his work

I have a pretty clear idea of what race means and ethnicity for that matter, and not just the dictionary given definitions

I think we just celebrated 125 years since Darwin died, I'd like to think that ideas about race, ethnicity, and Darwinism have moved on a little in that time

Rob Instigator 10.09.2007 03:00 PM

Like Paul Rodriguez says, "I think we should all just fuck fuck fuck fuck each other until we are all a light mocha color."

floatingslowly 10.09.2007 03:01 PM

for the record, I really like unicorns.

also of note: their horns can be ground into powder to create a powerful aphrodisiac (which sells really well on the chinese [a race and/or nationality] black [a color] market [a place to shop]).


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