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Originally Posted by tw2113

I plead the filth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fecGXuQIZRk

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Originally Posted by tw2113

FILTHY! :D

Filthy talk, too. Erin Burnett said "bullshit" the other day. I love this era... :D

A classic from 2016 (before the damn election): Fareed Zakaria on Drumpf's bullshit.

This is classic lawyerism tactics 101.

They know they are fucked, so if they say "release everything" it looks like they are not fucked. Then when DOJ redacts, they can claim victory, or when the whole truth comes out they can continue to bullshit about FBI plants and witch-hunts etc etc etc.

Of course they are going to scream "release it all".

there is an interesting article in today's financial times that compares biden to keir starmer and praises the value of "boring" candidates who appeal to those who are not obsessed with politics.

there are references to josé mourinho, no drama obama vs "maverick" mccain (article doesnt use the word maverick but i remember queen wasilla calling mccain that), and various other presidents and prime ministers throughout history.

there is also embedded in it a comparative theory of the electorate in the usa/uk (and the media as well).

it's a good piece actually, whether one agrees with it or not...

Why Biden and Starmer keep beating the critics
Political obsessives demand that leaders should be inspirational, but swing voters aren’t so needy
Janan Ganesh
https://www.ft.com/content/55094fb7-...f-7b5c9797ed2b

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

Of course the Cons will fight education.

The more educated one is, the more likely they are to not be Cons.

Keep 'em dumb. Keep 'em Republicun.

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Originally Posted by Skuj

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...m-trumps-home/

BUT HER EMAILS!!!

....AND HUNTER'S LAPTOP!!!!

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

you know it's often the leftists who are driving the normies into supporting fascists, yes?

i've seen that happen right here in this board.

me personally, i can endure leftists excesses, and won't budge from my centrist convictions at this point (unless shown actual evidence); but out there in the world, for every little lenin/mao that sprouts up, some cut-rate tv goebbels harvests another lost soul.

you're okay though, it's your time in life to do this, but i've seen this movie way too many times before and it always ends the same way.

Aye, depends how you define "leftist". There's a clear distaste amidst thee normies for wokeness, despite "wokeist" attempts to encourage a world of less descrimiation. But I'm all with you if you're referring to tankies by "leftist".

What I find interesting is the relativism of it all. As a Canadian, our center is nearly the justice dem/progressive wing of the US. At least for now. We have our own issues now (*cough* FREEDOM *cough*)

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Originally Posted by Inhuman

heyyy! wow it's been ages

re: woke: i no longer know wtf it means. it used to mean something, then it became a performative social media thing devoid of much meaning, and now it's apparently an insult for some? less discrimination of course would be great, and there are social structures of oppression that must be changed of course, but i don't think maoism will free us from them.

and yes, the usa used to be a center-right country (i place sorta center-left here), but a lot of the population is now flirting with outright fascism. i am just a "liberal" which now apparently means commie in fox news parlance. but no, i'm a liberal, really. very passé, i know, but that's where i am, roughly, that's my home, broadly speaking, in the philosophical sense, not the popular label sense.

btw (i originally came here to post this) palin just lost in alaska!!! hahahahahahaaa! glorious...

anyway, i don't understand very well the canadian political landscape, i'm afraid. our other resident canadian (skuj) is more concerned with usa politics in this thread. so what's going on over there? last i heard trudeau was getting ready to sell lng to europe...

Didn't "woke" become what Repukes call people who are slightly educated about things? Like, they have to invent a silly word for it now?

(And I must confess, I'm not able to read Inhuman correctly. Is he/she for The Freedom People?)

In Canada, on Sep 10, Pierre Fucking Freedom Pollievre will be elected the leader of The Cons. Many so-called experts here say that this means The Cons will lose the next election. I'm not so sure. We often appear to be pretty smug in Canada, and we think MAGAism can't happen here. But I see MAGAism all around me.

God help us.

I generally think of "woke" as being aware that the United States is built on a cemetery full of racist and misogynistic skeletons, among other variations. The "woke" people want to atone and rebuild and create a stronger more humanistic and inclusive foundation. The people complaining about "wokeness" think everything is just fine and nothing should be changed. The act of rebuilding better is an attack at their livelihood.

One time at the lunch table, after Obama had mentioned it in a speech, my grandfather asked us what "woke" meant and I started laughing out loud. That reaction probably scared him off wanting to know.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-...-trump-search/

Boggles my mind. TOP SECRET shit amongst the books/clothing.

BUT HER EMAILS!!!