Did I?

Didn't you? Just go back, I even quoted it.

There you go.

I mean, this thread isn't about that even and I don't even want to comment on that any further.

As if "stripping others from humanity for the sake of pleasure, play" or any other kind of exploitation isn't the core of all discrimination.

But I don't think it's necessary to come here and try to divert the core subject, because it seems to be the same thing other people have been doing.

That's actually a quote from Midori, a well-known japanese sex writer, author of "The Seductive Art of Japanese Bondage" et al. It doesn't say that.




and pls, as if derailing threads isn't the bread and butter of SYG.

also, you might be partly right about me doing this just to annoy you.

This Thread..

Bad timing.
And now you seem to be siding with the worst attitude on this thread.
Nothing anyone can do about it, it's all been said.
You want to show that kind of "character" now it says more about where you stand than anything else.

wow. this thread.
read it all yesterday. gives a good example of the condition of this messy place and reminds me of why i don't really post that much. Surprised to see that some of you really using biological reasoning to deal with highly socially determined phenomena.

I think trying to understand, that, even though maybe not actively (or knowingly) taking advantage of your privileged position, doesn't exclude oneself from reproducing hierarchical gender-relations and structural discrimination, should be starting point for further discussion.


body projection by Birgit Jürgenssen

please post more!

take it as you will.

This has been a good thread though, and has churned up the blood of SYG, drawing in people to discuss something that is as complex as anything in our world, and that will not have any easy answers. Education and discussion are top-shelf with me, and it is good that things get aired out in this way.

The main thing I draw from this whole thing is that I need to keep my comments about women and sexuality , and beautiful ladies, off the SY Board, because text does not convey implied humor, irony, sarcasm, or any kind of subtext, and because it makes the Sonic Youth loving ladies uncomfortable, which was never my intent, and because this is a forum for a band, not for the objectification of women.

I am not a rigid demagogue. I am a supple willow of a Court Jester.

Long live rock n roll.

wow, i was at the beer place yesterday having fun, sharing food, telling stories, discussing plans, and i thought about this thread and i realized how ridiculous it was to spend any energy thinking about it.

GLICE: i promised you a response and i would have liked to give it to you, but unfortunately doing it means i have to keep involved in this sorry shitfest.

and i don't know how priviledged you think you are with yoru cis-male-white-as-paper, to dream that people will address you with some sort of deference, but frankly i don't have you that high in my list of priorities to be worth my further involvement in this thread. sorry! cost-benefit issue.

i like you and all, and i think you're a pretty well-read guy, and while i don't see eye to eye with you ideologically, i like to exchange ideas with people of opposing viewpoints, but the thing is, i really don't like your online friend (she reminds me of khchris), and discussing anything with anyone in this little soapbox of hers implies getting involved in petty disputes and the vendettas of the mentally ill. who the fuck has time for this?



i mean (still responding to glice here), i like a nice fight and all, because a good fight can be productive, but this whole shit is so totally not worth it that i am laughing at myself for getting involved in it. there are thousands of other venues where it's more fun (and productive) to argue.

alright---see you elsewhere.

Yes, keep your 'benevolent, misunderstood' sexism away from me.

somebody should turn this into an actual certificate of cowardice and mail it to him. A+

That's what I said.

We got it the first time.

Let's all become mental eunuchs everyone.

...

Sad thread is sad.

the wang is not in the mind.

don't worry! effeminating anti rape witches will not cause your omnipotent phallus to shrivel by removing it from its transcendental place in your psychotic interior landscape.

in truth it is already rotting. subject to entropy like all things.

no amount of objectification can keep this fact at bay.

perform sutras to let go of passionate attachment to lamentation and glorification of wang.

banish wang angst to the land of wind and ghosts.

speak for your own cock.

my dangus cannot do the speaking.

it spits flame of dna. sword of life. a spilling fountain to the ways of onan.

and dull after only 12 posts. amen.

blessed be you for your prayers kind seeker

Sounds like my kind of anime!

Will there be cat-ears and moe love-pillows????

yes brother, each more almond scented than the last...

You know me like the palms of my hand. :o

bio engineered new designs of gender and neuro-sensory genital stimulation. ecstacy and bliss in murmuring caverns. careful not to drown in this world of unlimitable desire.

post human entities detaching and engineering their own genitalia. swapping designs from 3d printers. stalked by the corporate patent assassins they flee to underground resistance bunkers. what are you doing after the orgy? why, making sure it never ends. tonight we fight as one. the liberation of our bio data and dissolution of volitional self identity like so many bad copyright laws is upon us non gendered entities of the revolution.

I'd like to 3d print prince's butthole.

That's not sexist, right?

this is so brilliant im crying/laughing
thank you world

banish
wang
angst

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