Subarra series 2. Vatican/Politicians/Mafia/Roma fighting over land for a port facility

plus, Carlotta Antonelli

the giant beast that is the global economy

on prime video. great--and addictive!

Vatican politics?! I’m intrigued.

Think Mafia is specific to Sicily. Can’t recall the name of the Neopolitan version. Hmm.

camorra

the great british bakeoff 2018





mmmmmm... pretty...

Yah yah tons of that shit in the Sparrow! How could I forget?

this is for the movies thread but if you haven't yet check out GOMORRAH (the film... from last decade). really fucking good. apparently they've made tv shows and sequels as well but i have not seen. the original i'd highly recommend though.

Yes I think we’ve talked about it. Super violent, yeah? I think you or whoever else was involved in the last convo told me not to watch it in a bad headspace. I’m almost always in a bad headspace, or at least when it comes to being easily unsettled by gratuitous violence (especially rape, nonono), but I should get over that.

there was no rape as i recall but it's a quasi-documentary film about crime *culture*. not talking about an "outfit" here but whole neighborhoods and industries and... it's a bit like "the wire" where you see the connections between the small and the large world... and as realistic if not more because it was filmed with non-actors from those parts. yeah it's fucking nuts. but one of those where it's worth the suffering. maybe. mmmmayyyybe...

I've not seen the TV series either but I can't think of anything in the orig. film that'd put anyone off. It's certainly no more violent than any average Mafia/crime film I can think of. Less so in some cases. As symbols says, more about the infrastructure of crime than the actual crimes committed. Really good film.

agree on Gomorrah, one of the best

on season 2 of breaking bad still. a rewatch. one can appreciate so much when free from NERVES.

holy fuck that was a stressful show—one of the greatest, really.

More stressful than The Americans?

That show gave me a hemorrhoid, I think. ‘Murcans, that is.

Goddamn great, though.

oh, i...

you haven’t seen it?

i mean are you really asking or it it more than a rhetorical question?

either way... probably... yes??

but in a different sense cuz... tweakers! and..

ok let me know first if you were really asking. or just, you know, watch it, cuz it was glorious

and speaking of



how is it going with SOA demon?

Of course I’ve seen Breaking Bad. I was just wondering if *you* thought it was more stressful than The Americans, because I remember when I first started watching it the latter, I commented on how ulcer-inducing it was, and you seemed to agree.

I think Americans is more tense. And, frankly, better. But it had the benefit of learning about TV plot excellence from Breaking Bad, so... *shrug*

oh i get what you mean, yeah.

well it’s hard to compare. americans is more claustrophobic. breaking bad is more relatable (for me anyway, living where i live).

i remember breaking bad being so hardcore i could not even watch it sometimes. but this is my second viewing so perspectives change.

one thing is though we still hate skyler lmao. my wife more than me even. she showed me this little graph she found on the interwebs



so fucking true lol

alex trebek has a giant pair of huevos

https://youtu.be/7cInGyxCY9k


respect!

It's been a while since I saw The Sopranos but I don't remember Carmella having an affair.



But anyway. I always felt Skyler was in a no-win situation. I felt myself disliking her because she gets a bit shrill, but at the same time I get why she's completely done with Walter. So I was in this position of finding her annoying because she's an obstacle from the story continuing. If Walter had listened to her, the show is over. So I just kind of wanted her to shut up. But then how can you not sympathize? Her husband is evil.


I can't blame the actress who plays Skyler, I feel like that's just a weak point of the show, and you have to blame it on the writer.



Both great shows, although I'd take Breaking Bad over Sopranos.

skyler is annoying from the get go, when she’ll feed her husband vegan bacon for his birthday, and only the kid will say “this is bullshit”. plus she’s a passive aggressive bitch. cold.

carmela yells and fights and cries and breaks shit— my kind of girl lol. real, and with a heart.