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I got that CD... Oh boy, over 20 years ago. At the time I had Live Seeds and probably one more NC&BS record, and I wasn't aware that he had done an all-covers album (no everything-at-your-fingertips then, motherfuckers). So I "discovered" Kicking Against The Pricks at the music store — I remember it was difficult to read the back covers of the CDs because they had 'em under these locked semi-transparent plastic lids, but I could see it said "Running Scared" and I thought, Nick Cave covering THAT Roy Orbison song? SOLD! |
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30 Seconds to the Decline of Planet Earth Release Date: May 5, 2017 the link leads to the official stream on the SKM site. I'm a bit underwhelmed, most songs don't feature real drums, and I really don't like drum computers. Wonder if the tracks with drums are with Steve ? e.g track 6. I can't find any details anywhere... |
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it's been raining for days and my Wilco binge continues to feel appropriate. April is the cruelest month, after all.
as an addendum, Summerteeth hasn't left my car in weeks. I just keep going back. I fucking love that album so hard. Still.  Mermaid Avenue Vol II sounds like what it is: leftovers from the first album. It's fine. But I mean, as something that sits between two of their finest albums ever it's a bit underwhelming. My favorite tracks are "Someday Some Morning Sometime" which I'm pretty sure is just Jeff and Jay; and "I Was Born" with its Natalie Merchant vocal. So... it's not so much I am into the full on collaborations of the album as a whole. It's good as I said - but tough to live up to the expectations of every Wilco album before it.  Okay, so most Wilco albums are ones I say are "maybe my favorite," but Yanhee Hotel Foxtrot is "probably my favorite" as trite as that may sound. I vividly remember buying the album the day it was released (along w/ Tweedy's Chelsea Walls soundtrack) and listening to it on my ride home through a bright Spring ride through the country back roads. "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" totally floored me. It remains possibly my favorite Wilco song ever (still trite) and is in my opinion one of the finest guitar songs of the 2000's. That song ended and I had to start the album over before I could continue. YHF is important to so many people. No doubt. To me it serves as part of a soundtrack to that immediate post 9/11 era. This, Murray Street and Ryan Adam's Gold all remind me of this time. And I don't mean this in a political way at all. I'm just talking about that moment in time. When things seemed really weird and these albums... they just sounded so grounded to me. Special albums. At that time I frequented this bar, and all the other regulars were also frequent performers (as I was at the time) and YHF was this weird album we all loved and played over the PA before/between/after sets. I don't know. It has a magical sound to it. "Jesus, etc" and "I'm The Man Who Loves You" and "Heavy Metal Drummer" and everything. I love this album so much.  The one that Sev's been waiting for. Well guess what? A Ghost Is Born is fantastic. It's like... after YHF they didn't quite know if they should go further with that sound or go off the deep end in another direction. They managed to do both. The cliche "America's Radiohead" thing feels apt here. I don't know. I'm rambling. This album feels so rootsy and classic Wilco while also doing crazy shit like "Spiders (Kidsmoke)" or "Less Than You Think" while balancing it with shit like "Late Greats" or "Company In My Back." Love it and still don't know how to properly describe it. It's like the most Wilco album while also being the most experimental Wilco album.  Fuck me. THIS is how you make a live album. Just wow. So you take the bulk of your latest album (Ghost Is Born) and then mesh it with your full history. And I don't just mean singles. I mean deep cuts. I mean rarities. The band full embraces their discography on this album. They open with "Misunderstood" and just knock this shit out of the park. And then they proceed to just kill it with Ghost Is Born stuff and pepper it with stuff like "One By One" or the title track or "Via Chicago" and whatever else. As much as I just raved about Ghost, truthfully I might reach for this more often. I don't know. It's got this great purity to it. To go back to the Radiohead analogy it's like how I truly think of I Might Be Wrong as an album on its own rather than just live versions of Kid A/Amnesiac. Kicking Television is just really really great on its own. It's not just a live Wilco album - it is a totally great Wilco album. |
Sometimes I really feel like I'm living in a cave or something. I have NEVER listened to Wilco, all I know about them is that Tweedy and Cline are in it, but I wouldn't even be able to recognise their voices (or guitar sound for that matter). Soo name me an album I should start with, I guess I'll give that last one a try lateron today
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Start with A Ghost is Born. You're a Sonic Youth fan, and probably a Dinosaur Jr fan, and probably a Neil Young/Crazy Horse fan, and probably a Can fan. With those tastes, you will absolutely find something to love about A Ghost is Born. I think it's odd that NR didn't mention the tremendous way this album opens. "At Least That's What You Said" and "Hell is Chrome" are two of the most powerful and beautiful Wilco songs, and they both feature absolutely ridiculous, deconstructive guitar solos. Then there's "Spiders (Kidsmoke)" which is the noisiest and most chaotic thing in Wilco's discography. Later, "Handshake Drugs" makes you want to dance to a song about Tweedy's debilitating prescription pill addiction. If you've really never heard them before, which I actually find kind of hard to believe, start here. |
A Ghost Is Born is certainly a good place to start for an SY fan. Same with Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
Plz listen up and report back here. :) As for me... well, nobody told me Ryan Adams released a surprise album of Heartbreaker b-sides this week so... |
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I thought it was Prisoner b-sides or something... stuff of and relating to that album he just put out a little while ago. ?? But hey, you're the Ryan Adams guy. I am content with the fact thay a I don't know much about him at all. Anyway, now I'm curious. I guess there's actually a Prisoner box set or something? Again, no idea, but this is where I'm getting my info: http://www.nme.com/news/music/ryan-a...-sides-2062222 |
Also, NR, I have called out to you in the comic book thread and in the "clear some PMs" thread. Clear some PMs or visit the comic book thread.
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I am once again listening to this funky motherfucker. :D Last time I said I was listening to it I was actually just doing so on Apple Music and only made it through the first two tracks (I was working). Later I wanted to continue my listening, but discovered something terrible. The backup digital versions of a handful of my "absolute necessity" albums which I hastily loaded onto my iPod when I discovered it had been wiped did NOT contain a backup of Sign. I panicked and went home to dig through my CDs to find Sign but I couldn't find it anywhere. I guess I could have put Apple Music back on, but this is an album that I have always owned, and if I don't actually own it, I feel incomplete. I turned my house upside down and found no sign of Sign, so I hopped on Amazon and ordered a copy. Yesterday it arrived, and things are once again as they should be. I once again own Sign "O" the Times, so of course I'm listening to it right now. That's my story. Now I'm wondering why I even bothered to tell it. |
Yes Prisoner bsides. I have no idea why I typed Heartbreaker.
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Yah I don't know much 'bout no Ryan Adams except that he was married to Mandy Moore and that I once owned a Whiskeytown album called Pneumonia that I thought was pretty OK at the time. Think I bought it largely because I was actually on a Wilco kick after YHF came out, and I was mining the previous year's alt-country albums looking for similar stuff. Hey NR, I made a post in the café that I'd love to get some feedback on. It's about an issue that's driving me a little batty. You'll know it when you see it. Say stuff to me about it!! :D |
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did anyone of you ever hear of Juana Molina? Try out one of these two KEXP sessions for instance:
solo in 2006 with band in 2014 I had never heard of her either, but saw an announcement that she'll be touring Europe in the coming months. She is from Argentina and sings in Spanish (I assume), so I've no idea what she's singing about. But I really like her voice and the overall sound Oh, I haven't listened to Wilco yet still. Will be doing that some time soon. Not tonight, my ears are already beeping too much after a too busy day at work :-( |
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Speaking of: Natalie Merchant announces 10-disc box set including new and unreleased songs The Natalie Merchant Collection comprises all eight of her solo studio albums plus two additional discs By the way, I love that Natalie Merchant and Margo Timmins (and Leah Singer!) have kept their hair grey instead of dying it to look younger. What, "silver foxes" can be men only? Fuck that. Long live real women! |
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Pretty brilliant how so much can be made out of so little. I thought it started off boring, so I skipped to the two minute mark and was soon entranced. Love it. --- Came across a Polvo rarity. The guitars sure sound like Polvo, but the vocals (by Dave?) are louder and clearer than on every other Polvo record. First time I heard it, I ended up playing it a bunch of times in a row. It's now officially in my top 5 Polvo songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMUfngxxsQw Anyone know anything about it? |
hows the new Actress, haven't heard it yet. is ne GAS out yet?
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Oh fuck, the new Actress... I think that comes out Friday. New Gas is out. Haven't heard it yet. |
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The new Actress is pretty good, but a slower burn than Ghettville, I think. I've listened a couple of times now, and I like it, but I think it's going to take a bit for it to wrap itself around my brain and really reveal its mysteries. Check out the track "X22RME" ... pretty goddamn sweet. |
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Speaking of,  This is, of course, in the context of their Solid Sound Festival (now that is a festival I could dig).  You can vote once per day. I say A Ghost Is Born JUST BECAUSE I wanna hear ALL 15 MINUTES of "Less Than You Think" live. (Actually, those 15' on the album are themselves an edit of a 45' or so performance... Bring on the 45 minutes! With O'Rourke and everything!). The show should be available later via their Roadcase and I'm effin' buyin' it. |
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Being There Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Star Wars Summerteeth Wilco (the Album) Sky Blue Sky Schmilco A.M. The Whole Love |
^^ just sayin'... I probably won't vote, but I'm not one to shy from a list.
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You don't say, huh. ;) ETA: Right now Being There is leading with 29%. YHF follows closely with 27%. Ghost and Summerteeth are tied with 13% each. Fifth place for Sky Blue Sky with 7%. A.M. hangs in there with 2%. Wilco (The Album) and The Whole Love do what they can with 1% each. Star Wars and Schmilco don't register yet: 0% for both. |
I would vote Summerteeth for the feels, but either in first would be great picks.
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Ok, so, if I were a massive all-out Wilco fanatic, I might vote Being There just because it's a longer album and it would mean more Wilco at he show (presumably).
However, I can't really imagine why twice as many people would want to hear Summerteeth or YHF than A Ghost is Born. If you saw Wilco in the late '90s and early '00s (sometning I can almost guarantee many of these voters did), you've already heard those albums played in full, or close to it. And I can attest to the fact that "I am Trying to Break Your Heart" and "Poor Places" and "Ashes of American Flags" all the other scattery, studio epics from YHF don't exactly translate well into live performances. Those are headphone tracks. Their intimacy and stereo-headlines are lost in an arena or even a theater. I have never seen them performed in a way that measured up to the studio versions. Regarding Summerteeth, again, like Flaming Lips and the Soft Bulletin, if you've seen the band since the album came out, you've probably seen the album performed more-or-less in full. Even if you saw these bands years after the release of their releases, chances are the tracks from these albums made up a good chunk of the non-new material either band played. This has been true of Wilco and certainly true of Flaming Lips in my experience. Now, assuming that pretty much everything after 2005 is considered "post-peak" material for the band (still goood albums, but the pop culture sainthood had ended, let's be hienst), why then would anyone hope for anything other than A Ghost is Born? Song-wise, it has the material that is most live-ready, and in my experience, translates the best into a live performance. It's an album of folk, kraut and shredding, with a bit of soul and bounce to boot. The songs are epic and will not devlolve into cluttered messes on stage (YHF). It has the soaciness and creative boundary pushing of YHF, but it's also a *rock* album. A Ghost is Born is the only logical choice unless you're an old Uncle Tupelo nut and you want to get close to Anodyne (in which case I'd understand voting for A.M.). Long story short, I'm right, other people are wrong, and A Ghost is Born is the album people SHOULD want to hear most, because LOGIC. :cool: |
 I risk mentioning this one and the inevitable Sev wants to punch Billy Pumpkin in the face thing. Haha. Not to mention that even most SP fans seem to dismiss this album. But I've always liked Zeitgeist. Granted it was a reunion in name only, there was a weird thing that happened the day it was released. I went and picked it up on my lunch break. On my way home I stopped for gas and another guy - about my age - was blasting this album in his car. I made a comment "oh nice" or something and he gushed about how he'd been waiting for a new SP album for years. There was something special about an album in 2007 making people actually GO TO THE STORE to buy a physical release on release day. Y'know? Anyway, this is rambling. I do like this album. At least more than most people do anyway. I've probably heard it 3 or 4 times this past week.  Not the album tho - the bonus disk from the deluxe edition. Their early b-sides were so awesome. I remember in high school making a mixtape (cassette) of all the b-sides me and my friends could find to keep us satiated after Pinkerton. "Jamie" is easily one of the best things they recorded in those early days. Love that song. Great stuff here.  you guys probably hate when I even post in this thread huh? Vitalogy was def the "weird album" at the time. It's def nothing like Ten or Vs anyway. I actually think I like it a lot more now than I did back when it came out.  We had some nice weather over the weekend (after some very bad weather). Soft Bulletin is such a great Spring album. I'm at a loss at what else to say. It's so classic. I don't know if I need to really say anything. |
Man....I have totally forgotten about Soft BUlletin. It has such an awesome intro....man....I'm gonna listen to that all day tomorrow. 'I stood up and I said hey....'
anyways, in here to post up this one. Hijokaidan recorder with idol group BiS to make a noise/jpop album. the made a second a year later...wasn't aware of this one...BISKAIDAN2!! https://youtu.be/bPcAk3PSVS0 |
NR - I went to the store to but a bunch of albums in 2007. Zeitgeist was not one of them. In fact, I've only met one person in my life (aside from you) who has ever even mentioned it. She was a co-worker when it came out, and she was very excited. Waxed philosophical about SP like they were Bob goddamn Dylan. I felt bad for her.
Thanks for reminding me that Corgan is on my face punch list though. I've been zeroed in on Drake, Trump and Jared Leto. My list is getting bigger than I ever intended it to be. Vitality totally has its moments though. It's the best Pearl Jam album even though it has some sick-ass shit on it. I LOVED it in '95. It kinda boggles my mind that you listen to so much Weezer and SP, but mad love bro. Mad love. A music fan without balls is not a music fan. Unless it's a girl. I've been working for 14 hours and have no brain juice left for clever-type-stuff, but you get my meaning. |
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Sorry man. I promise I'm trying to be funny and I just sound like a dick. :(
I'm so so so tired right now. You're my bro and I don't care if you listen to stuff that I don't like. Don't care a bit. Actually makes me want to re-listen to that Blue Album bonus disc. "Jamie" is a damn good song. |
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I didn't think you were being a dick. I got what you meant. "Why be a music nerd if you're going to just like what everyone else says is good?" right? And I agree. Whatever. I like stuff you don't. You like stuff I don't. It really doesn't matter.  Binaural was apparently some huge hit for PJ, sales-wise. Which is kind of weird to me. I don't remember anything here being a big hit single or anything. Maybe it's just because they would have been riding high after "Last Kiss" around this time? Anyway, I think Binaural is just good. There's nothing wrong with it. Nothing I dislike. But it's pretty safe sounding for the most part. Just kind of sounds like PJ making a 'classic rock' album. I can't really say anything bad about it, but I am reminded why I don't revisit it often. |
I can sorta see SP being a love em or hate em deal. But I mean Weezer is just good happy pop. Sev, you never did hear their white album from last year huh? Even as an obsesso, I think it's their strongest album in a long long time.
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Whaaaaat??? No bra, I listened to it, like, within an hour of your asking me to listen to it! :eek: I swear! I'm pretty sure we even talked about it on the board. I remember I was giving you shit about it (playfully) and you told me I should check it out because I like their first two albums and thought EWBAITE was so so, so I put that shit on Apple Music like right then and there. I think I was actually on lunch and sitting in my car, and I put the alibum on while I ate. I did the same thing when louder asked me to give Earl's I Don't Like Shit... another listen. I did it, literally, as soon as I possibly could. Can't believe you'd forget this stuff man. This (my own selflessness, willingness to re-evaluate things at other people's requests and overall awesomeness as a friend) is one of the reasons why it makes me want to HANG MYSELF FROM A CEILING FAN when you put off listening to the new Kendrick Lamar album for like a month. Dude-yo! Or when louder seemed to have absolutely made up his mind that TLOP was shit, despite my efforts to bully him into adopting my perspective, and my *endless* dissertations on how and why it was, in fact, dope AF. (The TLOP/louder thing was ultimately just hilarious, obviously, and a huge win for me, because 9 months later louder declared that it was beautiful and made him cry and it ended up being his favorite album of the year. Baaaahahahaha!!!! Could have saved himself some time if he'd just heeded to my words for, like, ALL OF 2016. Hahahaha!) :D Now I am in a goofy mood because I slept a FUCKLOAD and then drank a keg of coffee. :cool: |
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