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Varies between Sec.80 and good kid though... right? Not TPAB and untitled, unmastered. I have no idea how I'd rank them. I think good kid, mAAd city is my favorite, but it's quite an emotional rollercoaster. You're on cloud 9 for "Bitch Don't Kill my Vibe" and "Backseat Freestyle," then "The Art of Peer Pressure" hits and it's like "Devil in a new Dress" plunging you into despair with "Runaway" and then taking you to hell with, well, the entire rest of that album. Then you have "Good Kid" to get your shit pumped way the fuck up, and it all comes crashing down again. That's a rough album. I think "Fucn Your Ethnicity" is my favorite SONG because it sounds... almost happy. But as for albums, it's hard to say. They all have pretty much nothing but strengths (though I could do without "u" altogether. Yikes.) Anyway, Kendrick is the shit. |
I listened to these bad boys this weekend on the hi-fi.
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I haven't said anything about Summerteeth yet because I've been listening to it for three days...
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As much as I hate Billy Corgan (in terms of face/head punchability, he's below only Drake and Dolanld Trump, and only because he's nowhere near as visible, important, or culturally omni-present), I do hav fond memories of listening to this album with my friends in junior high. For about 18-24 months, the Smashing Pumpkins were just about as big as post-Nirvana rock got, and there was almost a sense of "mania" to their output at this time. Like, every fucking single was a hit (no number 1 singles or anything, but this was the era of alternative and radio airplay charts -- they did have a few #1's in that context -- and MTV), from "Bullet W/ Butterfly Wings" to "Thirty-three," it just felt big.
I'm also impressed by the diversity of the songs, even the hits. Bullet is a post-"teen spirit" angst-rocker, but "1979" sounded totally different, with hints of (half-baked) electronica and an iconic video. "Zero" was basically a Nine Inch Nails song, but "Tonight Tonight" felt very poignant to 14-year-olds at the time. Even low-stakes final single "Thirty-three" was touching. So yah. I do not like the band. I do not like the members. They aped a bunch of better bands, and acted like choads, and somehow managed to milk late '80s shoegaze, grunge, glam, glam-metal, and and pop culture world's need for a generationally representative traditional pop band comprised of three or four distinct personalities. They ripped off MBV, Ride, Jane's, Nirvana, fucking Boston, NIN, the Cure, and countless others, but for a while it was good to have them around. I feel like in '95-'96 the only bands that may have eclipsed SP were Oasis (in terms of pop) and maybe Beck in terms of alternative omnipresence. Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. I was young and dumb. |
You guys ever bother with th 2012 deluxe reissue?
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WASHING MACHINE also came out in '95. Kinda obliterates the competition.
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yes. It was great. The stringless version of "Tonight Tonight" was f'ing awesome. Really, the super deluxeness of the package may have seemed overwhelming, but as a fan of that album for many many years there was some incredible stuff to unearth. I don't really care what kidn of person Billy Pumpkin is, so I skipped the rant haha. I do love SP, though. |
Tony Bennett wipes his ass with Smashing Pumpkins liner notes
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Haha, you bastar! Of course it obliterates the competition... ESPECIALLY shit like SP and Oasis and pretty much everything else (except for maybe Red Medicine). I'm just waxing nostalgic on account of my bitchness. ;) |
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Hey! The Billy "rant" was limited to literally ONE sentence out of all that fingertip diarrhea I messed myself with up there. Don't skip my rants, brah! Rants are, like, ¾ of the Severian pie! |
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Now why would he do that when single-ply TP is a higher-quality product? ;) |
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There are plenty of albums from the era I like, a few I love and then there's Sonic Youth. Even if in a given moment I might "like" another group more, the critic part of me knows that, artistically speaking, SY is better. ![]() I think I've listened to 450 of the 500 albums he (poorly) writes about in this kind of annoying book. After scanning every title, I shut the book and was and remain more convinced than ever that SY's artistic output is the most historically noteworthy achievement of this genre. |
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If I didn't agree, I probably wouldn't be here. I don't "fanboy-out" about an artist unless I consider it/them one of, if not the, absolute best of he best. I don't join groups or forums for groups that were good some of the time. Sonic Youth has the strongest discography in contemporary music. Who's had a better, longer run? The Beatles, some would say, but Bad Moon Rising has a hell of a lot more to offer than Please Please Me. Fugazi has a pretty perfect run, but didn't realease as much material or cover as much ground. Velvet Ubderground? Nirvana? Neither lasted long enough or released enough to be in the running, great as they are. • SY has the best discography, most incomparable, in guitar-based music. • Aphex Twin has the best discography, most incomparable, in electronic music. • Kanye West has the best, most incomparable discography in hip-hop. • Coltrane has the jazz discography that makes everyone else's look like crap. • The Beatles have the most best, most incomparable, culturally significant discography in "pop." These are the artists I'd devote significant time to needing out over, basically. |
Miles Davis literally CHANGED MUSIC three different times and recorded far more masterpieces, with a wider array of backing groups, than Coltrane. Just saying. 'Trane is as masterful as Miles but Miles discography beats tranes IMO.
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I agree. To put it another way, there are more Coltrane records that I fucking love. But there are more Davis albums that I think are truly important and everyone in the world should be familiar with. |
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No I get that. I pretty much agree. I just prefer Coltrane personally. I think Coltrane's discography is more consistent, but Miles has more landmarks. |
well, that may be because 'trane died in 1967
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![]() alright so Summerteeth is why I'm a Wilco fan. Wynona Ryder introducing them on Conan was my intro. And as such, I have a lot of attachment to this album. It's not technically my favorite Wilco album. But it's close. And it's one of those albums where I struggle to pick a favorite song. Is it the slacker bummer headnod of "She's A Jar," or the simple strummy "How To Fight Loneliness," or is it the Cars-y pop of "Always In Love" or the what-did-he-just-say lyrics in "Via Chicago" or or or...? I love this record. It's constantly shapeshifting for its entire duration, and yet nothing feels THAT far removed from Being There. This is a band evolving before our eyes, but in a natural way. Like how you can't see someone's hair growing if you see them everyday. |
The live-in-studio version of "I'm Always in Love" from I Am Trying to Break Your Heart is the definitive version of that song for me.
My favorite Summerteeth track is "A Shot in the Arm." There was a lot going on in this era for indie-leaning alternative bands with big aspirations, and in 1999 I was much more focused on The Soft Bulletin and A Series of Sneaks than I was on Summerteeth. It's a good album, but something about the production doesn't really work for me. I listen to it less than pretty much any other Wilco album. |
"Shot In The Arm" is damn good.
Funny - I lump Summerteeth and Soft Bulletin together. Those two albums def soundtrack a specific time in my life. That time when you're out of high school and into college and feel like the world just opened up and is huge and you want to ditch all your childhood things and just take in as much as you can. Y'know? OH! And I totally lump Terror Twilight into this as well. I didn't get into Spoon until Girls Can Tell. |
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Yeah, I know that time super well. Throw I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One in there for me too, as well as Built to Spill's Perfect From Now On even though both were out long before I went off to college. They still defined the time, because they finally made sense to me only after all that Wonder crumbled into despair. :( |
listening to Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers.
Will I be shot if I say that I like em more than the original Modern Lovers?? They're just so proto-twee and cute, it's awesome |
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I had a roommate in college who preferred JR&TML to the Modern Lovers. I'm not sure it's very common — a bit like preferring the Jicks to Pavement, but hey, some people do! More power to ya! Me, I'm a Modern Lovers guy. |
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Feels like a Weezer night.
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How have you not listened to DAMN. yet? |
I gotta listen to what my ears are in the mood for, lest I write off something good unfairly.
Nearly 3 hrs of Weezer tonight and I'm happy right now. |
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Dude you're cray-cray. I get the ears and mood thing, but I've gotta say you're sleeping bro. You are sleeping on the new Kendrick Lamar. For what it's worth, it's WAY more immediate and full of ear candy than TPAB. That one was hard to get into, and I love it. But DAMN. is way different. I have had pretty much all of the songs stuck in my head for over a week. I've listened to it every single day since it came out. Wanna know the last time that happened? TLOP. The time before that? Yeezus. If you're expecting more TPAB stuff, don't. It's fucking nothing like that. It's catchy and it will make you nod your head like crazy. |
I'm ashamed to admit that I had never heard this awesome song until last night... here I thought I was something of an armchair punk scholar, but apparently not.
Yanka Dyagileva - "My Sorrow is Luminous" Yeah, it's Russian so maybe I get a pass for not being familiar with it... maybe... but I kinda think not. Great song though. Wow. |
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Now this:
Recondite - "Levi" (club edit) Goddamn glorious, and don't tell me you don't agree. Listen, punks. From this album with the badass cover: ![]() |
I don't agree
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No need to apologize. I just thought it was objectively digable. Shows what I know. Anyway, I'm digging the shit out of it.
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