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SonicBebs 04.23.2014 12:35 AM

I'm surprised and not surprised about moyes
Utd have been shit this year but I thought they'd give him at leadt a season and a half
especially after the start fergie had

demonrail666 04.23.2014 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SonicBebs
I'm surprised and not surprised about moyes
Utd have been shit this year but I thought they'd give him at leadt a season and a half
especially after the start fergie had


Yeah, surprised but not surprised, although I do think the board was right to act now rather than risk him with a £150m transfer budget in the summer. Man U's problems are bigger than just their manager but it did look increasingly like he was never gonna be the right man for them. Fingers should point at Fergie for choosing someone whose personality and tactical approach was so at odds with what the club were associated with. Nobody expected the transition to be easy but Moyes showed nothing to suggest he had what was needed to take them forward long term. It doesn't suddenly make Moyes a bad manager but this has highlighted his shortcomings - not helped by Martinez's excellent start at Everton - so it'll be interesting seeing where he goes from this. The vogue, even in the mid table, seems to be for young, tactically progressive and quite attack-minded managers. Whatever Moyes is, he's not that.

Bertrand 04.23.2014 05:42 AM

I'd have expected a sack after they were granted their 7th or 8th position, at the end of the season. A human factor.
Being given the Spanish archer right after losing to his former club must be really hard to swallow - such a bad timing...

Mourinho is fiddling with the idea of lining up a weakened team against Liverpool becuz nobody loves him.
Because his players wouldn't have enough time to recover from that game for their second leg against Madrid (but wasn't the Chelsea squad that parked the bus already a weak team yesterday?).

So... Mr Special One is so pissed at the idea that he's not won the PL that he's decided he'll be the one who chooses who wins it?
What an ego...

PS:
Damn, this is my 1000th post, he's even spoiled that too!

demonrail666 04.23.2014 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertrand
Mourinho is fiddling with the idea of lining up a weakened team against Liverpool becuz nobody loves him.
Because his players wouldn't have enough time to recover from that game for their second leg against Madrid (but wasn't the Chelsea squad that parked the bus already a weak team yesterday?).

So... Mr Special One is so pissed at the idea that he's not won the PL that he's decided he'll be the one who chooses who wins it?
What an ego...


I don't have as big a problem with him fielding a weakened side as I do with his predictably provocative need to tell us he's gonna do it in advance. He wants to discredit a title he won't win. I don't even see him as a pantomime villain anymore. He's just a nasty bastard who can't handle defeat. Although at least he makes it even easier to dislike Chelsea again.

SonicBebs 04.23.2014 07:07 AM

His comments on Saturday about the refs this season show a lack of class too. He used to be pretty classy. Now he comes across like a sulky teenager

Bertrand 04.23.2014 07:21 AM

Former sulky forward Berbatov's latest goal : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Xr2TFkEik
No brooding, but a bright smile after a lovely lob.

Cunt 04.23.2014 07:29 AM

What Mourinho does is fantastic.

Chelsea lost to Sunderland the other day. Mind you, there were players on the pitch.
Is anyone questioning the players' performance? No, they’re [press] talking about Mourinho, because he makes the bullets fly in one direction.

And that’s how you get a grown man like Materazzi to cry like a baby.

!@#$%! 04.23.2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunt
And that’s how you get a grown man like Materazzi to cry like a baby.


or like this!

 

Cunt 04.23.2014 08:04 AM

^haha, yes.

re moyes:
@piersmorgan
Sir Alex recommended Moyes over Mourinho because he feared the latter would eclipse his memory too fast. Harsh, selfish, reality.

I hate Piers but it's an interesting thought.

demonrail666 04.23.2014 01:18 PM

I'm just praying to the god of a parallel universe that Moyes' replacement is Sven. It'll never happen but pure entertainment. You know he's applying.

demonrail666 04.23.2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunt
What Mourinho does is fantastic.

Chelsea lost to Sunderland the other day. Mind you, there were players on the pitch.
Is anyone questioning the players' performance? No, they’re [press] talking about Mourinho, because he makes the bullets fly in one direction.

And that’s how you get a grown man like Materazzi to cry like a baby.


I used to enjoy disliking Mourinho. He's not fun anymore. There's a nastiness to him now. I'm starting to understand now why he's so despised in Spain. He's gone from a manager I loved to hate to one I'm now starting just to hate.

!@#$%! 04.23.2014 02:40 PM

Really frustrated with Bayern right now!

!@#$%! 04.23.2014 04:10 PM

it's going to be a fucking uphill battle next week.

was real's defense awesome? or did bayer's attack suck? don't know. it was tight.

but bayern's problem was really in the back. many times fucked, one time too many.

insert picture of beat takeshi in sonatine, shooting himself in the head.

demonrail666 04.23.2014 05:15 PM

Great defending by Real but Bayern seemed really ponderous. All the bad things people say about Barcelona minus the necessary moments of genius. Lahm was a disappointment but seemed to be double marking Coentrau. Ribery again does that thing where I'm constantly told he's amazing then, when I see him, he does nothing. It was tight though and I think Bayern will be stronger at home. Still think they'll go through even though I hope it's Real.

!@#$%! 04.23.2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Great defending by Real but Bayern seemed really ponderous. All the bad things people say about Barcelona minus the necessary moments of genius. Lahm was a disappointment but seemed to be double marking Coentrau. Ribery again does that thing where I'm constantly told he's amazing then, when I see him, he does nothing. It was tight though and I think Bayern will be stronger at home. Still think they'll go through even though I hope it's Real.


Ancelotti really pulled an Italian job on Guardiola-- defend hard, counterattack fast--classic. And when his defense was in trouble, Pepe would do a somersault and stop the game with his hysterics (in the end he got really hurt, but only in the end). The one who had an awesome defensive game, I thought, was Xabi Alonso.

Lahm was put in the midfield and Rafinha in his place. But Rafinha sucks! The hole in the defense was between him and Boateng. That got cured near the end when Rafinha went out and Lahm pulled back to his place. But while Rafinha took a spot, Mueller and Gotze and Martinez were warming the fucking bench. Why??? Guardiola fucked up there (but I hear Martinez had some sort of gut trouble-- still… ).

Ribery wasn't on his best night, not sure why-- I'd say probably because Alaba wasn't either, he fucked up a lot of passes-- he used to be more aggressive under Heynckes. And Robben was alone so often it was fucking mind-boggling. Nobody with him!

I don't know why the fuck Kroos didn't attempt more shots from outside the area. That's usually his specialty, and to me it was one of the few ways to get past the Madrid defense. Maybe it's Pep's influence. But again, haven't seen them all year.

Later, I was TERRIFIED of Bale. I wonder what can happen if he and Cron-Aldo line up together. *shudder* They'd gut any defense like two sharp blades.

I am not as sure as you are that Bayern will go through to the finals. They now have zero away goals, so they will need 2 goals difference if Madrid scores next week-- I don't like the fucking odds. And I haven't seen previous matches, but judging by today alone, Madrid looks waaaay deadlier, whereas Bayern seems to have gone back to the year they lost the final to Chelsea-- possession without scoring, or "all balls, no dick." I want Bayern to win, but I'd put my money on Real Madrid right now.

TheMadcapLaughs 04.23.2014 07:50 PM

you know if madrid win the champions league mourinho is going to try to take the credit for it, "it was the team that I put together" kinda shit.

i'm praying we don't have a real vs. chelsea final. when 2 counter-attacking teams meet, boredom ensues.

demonrail666 04.23.2014 08:45 PM

I wonder if Bayern might not've lost a bit of intensity since winning the league so early.

!@#$%! 04.23.2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I wonder if Bayern might not've lost a bit of intensity since winning the league so early.


that's what pep just said in the post-match interviews but i call BS

last year they won by far and away and beat all records and still kicked ass in the champions and loved a good kill.

i blame pep. pirlo may shit flowers but when pep shits real turds come out. his bizarre formations are fucking bizarre-- i remember the preseason experiments (yuck) and while i skipped the actual season i just read THIS.

why he props up rafinha i don't know.

Cunt 04.24.2014 05:30 AM

Thought Bayern were lucky to get out only one-nll. Real did great keeping the lines tight and closing spaces, Coentrao probably the man of the match.

Interesting to see figures like Beckenbauer and Kahn openly criticising possession. Wonder what will happen to Pep if they fail the final.

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I'm just praying to the god of a parallel universe that Moyes' replacement is Sven. It'll never happen but pure entertainment. You know he's applying.

Hard to top Moyes, comedy-wise.

 


Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMadcapLaughs
you know if madrid win the champions league mourinho is going to try to take the credit for it, "it was the team that I put together" kinda shit.

i'm praying we don't have a real vs. chelsea final. when 2 counter-attacking teams meet, boredom ensues.


Football might not be the right sport for you.

TheMadcapLaughs 04.24.2014 02:22 PM

I'm sorry but Chelsea bores the daylights outta me when I watch em.

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Originally Posted by Cunt



Football might not be the right sport for you.


demonrail666 04.24.2014 03:37 PM

The best you can usually say about a Mourinho team is they're successful. There's invariably more excitement in the press conferences than on the pitch.

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that's what pep just said in the post-match interviews but i call BS

last year they won by far and away and beat all records and still kicked ass in the champions and loved a good kill.

i blame pep. pirlo may shit flowers but when pep shits real turds come out. his bizarre formations are fucking bizarre-- i remember the preseason experiments (yuck) and while i skipped the actual season i just read THIS.

why he props up rafinha i don't know.


They aren't as sharp as they were but that's almost inevitable given the transitionary nature of this season - not just for Bayern but most of the big sides. Maybe Pep does experiment a bit too much but the press are going a bit ott in their criticism of them the other night. Real are a top side who defended v well. Bayern's road to the trophy last year wasn't that great either. Everyone remembers them thrashing Barcelona but they very nearly went out to Arsenal in the quarters and some would say Dortmund were unlucky not to win the final.

!@#$%! 04.25.2014 08:35 AM

@demonyo - sure no team is perfect but pep waited way too long to make changes when his weird scheme flopped.

anyway, i was waiting for ZM's writeup which hasn't appeared yet, but found this elsewhere:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...-bayern-munich

^^ great article as usual by michael cox.

!@#$%! 04.25.2014 02:19 PM

oh shit fuck poor tito vilanova is dead.

demonrail666 04.25.2014 05:41 PM

Very sad about Vilanova.

Agree about Pep's reluctance to change things during a game. It was also true at Barcelona. He gets away with it because he rarely has to. I do wonder though how some of the bigger Bayern players feel about his constant tinkering between games. I don't follow the Bundesliga but it almost seems like Pep's still looking for his best side/formation. Still, when you win the league so early in the season it's obviously not that big a problem.

demonrail666 04.26.2014 11:47 PM

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It's been a few days since you posted that pic and I still can't look at it without pissing myself laughing.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 04.26.2014 11:51 PM

 

No shit, Michael Jordan is sitting on the Bobcats bench in the corner, its who Lebron is staring at as he goes up for this dunk. You should have seen Jordan's reaction!

Oh yeah, I saw Manchester United destroy some team or another, I don't remember which, it was early this morning.

demonrail666 04.27.2014 10:48 AM

And so, for one week, every Liverpool fan becomes a rabid toffee.

!@#$%! 04.27.2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
And so, for one week, every Liverpool fan becomes a rabid toffee.


???

demonrail666 04.28.2014 06:10 AM

Haha. Everton's nickname is the toffees. Next week Liverpool fans will be in the weird position of desperately wanting to see Everton win against Man City to help secure them the title.

SonicBebs 04.28.2014 02:47 PM

I think everton might cause city some problems. They've been appalling recently so will have had a massive kick up the arse. And they're still in with a shout of champions league so will have a lot to play for

Cunt 04.29.2014 08:10 AM

http://youtu.be/1AhrugJaNkE

demonrail666 04.29.2014 01:34 PM

Hope el symbols has found a local bierkeller for Bayern v Real in a minute. Gonna be great.

!@#$%! 04.29.2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Hope el symbols has found a local bierkeller for Bayern v Real in a minute. Gonna be great.



i got a legal stream but it's not coming through due to my slow internet. so i'm gonna have to follow on a live blog and watch the replay later when i have a good connection.... but thanks for the good wishes!

i'm a bit nervous.

demonrail666 04.29.2014 01:48 PM

You're no doubt happy that Pep's decided to drop Rafinha and put Lahm back in defence.

!@#$%! 04.29.2014 02:10 PM

not with the current score :/

demonrail666 04.29.2014 02:27 PM

Fucking hell. This is mad. I honstly thought Bayern would do it but they've disintegrated!

!@#$%! 04.29.2014 02:40 PM

 

demonrail666 04.29.2014 02:43 PM

Should say that, while Bayern have imploded, Real have been brilliant.

!@#$%! 04.29.2014 02:50 PM

a comment from the guardian live blog:

Nicholas Matatu sums up why many people think Pep Guardiola is a busted flush. "Set pieces, a bit of physicality and turbo-charged counter attacks. Isn't that the very same strategy Bayern used last year to tear apart the Catalan masters of tiki-taka?" notes Nicholas Matatu

!@#$%! 04.29.2014 02:50 PM

also:

"The man who will pay the most for this result is Jurgen Klopp," reckons Krishnan patel. "Expect Bayern to shamelessly bully Dortmund and take away Subotic and/or Hummels."Personally,I think Hummels is over-rated.


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